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Old   February 21, 2024, 09:18
Default How to set the radiationProperties for transparent solid material
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Dear CFDer


I'm trying to use openfoamV11 (foundation edition) to simulate PVD reactor,


The highest temperature in the case is around 2000 degree. So I need to use the radiation model. Now I use the fvDOM method to simulate the radiation.


But for the solid material, I have nontransparent graphite and transparent quartz.


So I want to know how to set these two material?


The default setting for the solid is as following




radiation on;

radiationModel opaqueSolid;

absorptionEmissionModel constant;

absorptivity absorptivity [0 -1 0 0 0 0 0] 0.01;

emissivity emissivity [0 -1 0 0 0 0 0] 0.2;

E E [1 -1 -3 0 0 0 0] 0;

scatterModel none;

sootModel none;


Should I also set the radiationProperties of the transparent quartz the same with air?


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Old   February 23, 2024, 04:18
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Hey!


Transparent medium is not implemented currently, only transparent boundaries.


I tried several workarounds to achieve the same thing you are doing, but the main issue is that the radiative fields are not communicating between two regions of a CHT case.


Good luck to you, and if you do manage to find a solution, please share it, it is a feature I would love to see implemented!
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Thank you for your reply.
The following are the boundary conditions I set.

type greyDiffusiveRadiation;
value uniform 0;
emissivityMode solidRadiation;
emissivity uniform 1;



So, as you said, the emissivity of the gas-solid interface (transparent solid) is 0, and the emissivity of the gas-solid interface (completely opaque) is 1, is that right?


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Transparent medium is not implemented currently, only transparent boundaries.


I tried several workarounds to achieve the same thing you are doing, but the main issue is that the radiative fields are not communicating between two regions of a CHT case.


Good luck to you, and if you do manage to find a solution, please share it, it is a feature I would love to see implemented!
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Thank you for your reply.

So, as you said, the emissivity of the gas-solid interface (transparent solid) is 0, and the emissivity of the gas-solid interface (completely opaque) is 1, is that right?

Yep, but OpenFOAM does not compute a radiative field inside solid regions, so whatever you set at the boundary, the radiation will be converted to heat conduction inside the solids.


I tried to use a fluid region with frozen flow on, but there is not only one radiative field, each region has its own. Meaning that an incident ray from region 1 will hit the interface between region 1 and region 2, and its angle of incidence won't matter when region 2 will compute radiation, the radiation from region 1 will be re-computed according to the boundary properties for region 2, if that makes sense...
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Thank you


But Can I use fvDOM model for solids?
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