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Old   December 1, 2015, 11:11
Default How to create a list with particle properties from a specific cell?
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Hey everyone

I'm trying to implement a stochastic particle-particle collision model in OpenFOAM-2.3.
For that, I want to create lists with determined particle properties for every mesh cell.

For example, The diameter distribution inside a cell.
With that I'm able to determine the average particle diameter, maximum and minimum diameter inside a cell and so on. These statistics are necessary to create the fictitious particle used in this collision model.

Someone can help?

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Old   January 22, 2016, 06:55
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I'm also facing similar problem in fluent. Did u find a way.
Thanks.
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Old   January 22, 2016, 08:19
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Hey everyone

I'm trying to implement a stochastic particle-particle collision model in OpenFOAM-2.3.
For that, I want to create lists with determined particle properties for every mesh cell.
You do not have to create lists with determined particle properties for every mesh cell.

Every particle/parcel is linked with each cell. Check out the particle class.

Parcels used for kinematic tracking offfer the diameter (KinematicParticle.H):

Code:
protected:

    // Protected data

        // Parcel properties

            //- Active flag - tracking inactive when active = false
            bool active_;

            //- Parcel type id
            label typeId_;

            //- Number of particles in Parcel
            scalar nParticle_;

            //- Diameter [m]
            scalar d_;

And they wrap around the basic particle

Code:
template<class ParcelType>
class KinematicParcel
:
    public ParcelType
when the cloud is instatiated, so basically the parcel is a particle.

For you, this means that the particles/parcels themselves already contain the information you require for the collision model. Also, your sentence:

Quote:
I'm trying to implement a stochastic particle-particle collision model
already gives you a very strong hint that you should take a look at existing collision models, and not start thinking on the particle/cell, for-loop, list level. Good luck!
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Old   April 6, 2016, 12:22
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Hi foamers,

I am using solidParticle class and I am trying to calculate the number of particles in each cell at certain times. I want to combine all of the particles in a cell. Any suggestions?

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There is already something similar in Foam::KinematicCloud<CloudType>::theta()
which will calculate the particle fraction in the cells via
theta[cellI] += p.nParticle()*p.volume();
This can for example be used in sprayFoam.C with
alpha = parcels.theta();

You could duplicate this function and change this to
sumParticles[cellI] += p.nParticle();
you will get the desired Number of particles.

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Old   June 21, 2016, 05:22
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There is already something similar in Foam::KinematicCloud<CloudType>::theta()
which will calculate the particle fraction in the cells via
theta[cellI] += p.nParticle()*p.volume();
This can for example be used in sprayFoam.C with
alpha = parcels.theta();

You could duplicate this function and change this to
sumParticles[cellI] += p.nParticle();
you will get the desired Number of particles.

best regards
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Hi Andy,

You are right.
However, the diameter distribution information for each cell cannot be got by this way.

Kind Regards,

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There is already something similar in Foam::KinematicCloud<CloudType>::theta()
which will calculate the particle fraction in the cells via
theta[cellI] += p.nParticle()*p.volume();
This can for example be used in sprayFoam.C with
alpha = parcels.theta();

You could duplicate this function and change this to
sumParticles[cellI] += p.nParticle();
you will get the desired Number of particles.

best regards
Andy
Hi Andy,

Do you mean that parcels.theta() represents the particle volume fraction? But when I use this in my case, in some areas, the value of parcels.theta() is more than 1. I dont know what does it mean, can you explain it again? And what should I do to get the volume fraction of the particles?
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Yes, exactly... when your sum of particle volumes is more than the cells volume, you'll get a theta > 1. This can happen easily when you are not calculating paircollision of particles.
You can also try a dispersion model, which spreads the particles where the volume fraction is high.
found here:
Lahey, R.T., Lopez de Burnsdano, M., Jones, O.C., 1993.
Phase distribution in complex geometry conduits.
Nuclear Engineering and Design 141, 177–201.

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Yes, exactly... when your sum of particle volumes is more than the cells volume, you'll get a theta > 1. This can happen easily when you are not calculating paircollision of particles.
You can also try a dispersion model, which spreads the particles where the volume fraction is high.
found here:
Lahey, R.T., Lopez de Burnsdano, M., Jones, O.C., 1993.
Phase distribution in complex geometry conduits.
Nuclear Engineering and Design 141, 177–201.

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Ok, I will try. Many thanks!
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