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Old   February 1, 2015, 10:24
Default How to detect if PIMPLE has converged from inside fvOption?
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I am writing an fvOption that needs to write some data to CSV, but only when PIMPLE has converged. Is there a clever use of OpenFOAM's Time with which I can detect this? Right now I can detect when the time value has changed, but not when it's about to change.

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Old   February 1, 2015, 10:59
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Greetings Pete,

Well, if you only wanted to know when it's an iteration in which the solver will save the fields, then you can rely on the method "outputTime()":
Code:
if(time_.outputTime())
{
  // do stuff here whenever it's a time step where the solver will save
}
The downside is that this means that it will write the CSV file whenever a time snapshot is saved.

As for knowing when it has converged... that's a tricky one. Wait, you want only when it's the last PIMPLE loop. Mmm... this requires access to the PIMPLE object... technically, access to the instance of the class "pimpleControl".
OK, let's see:
  1. The class "pimpleControl" derives from "solutionControl", which in turn derives from "IOobject", which means that we can access the registry looking for the respective object... named "solutionControl", because "PIMPLE" is only the algorithm name.
  2. I went savaging a bit for how to access said way of access and re-found this post: http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/ope...tml#post426135 - see posts #14 and #15
  3. Now, once you have a local access instance to the "pimpleControl" object that is created by the solver, then you should be able to do this:
    Code:
    if (pimple.finalNonOrthogonalIter())
    {
      //the pertinent code to be done only in the last iteration
    }
But there's now a particularly big problem: will your "fvOption" actually be called in that last iteration of the PIMPLE loop?
I took a look and rhoPimpleFoam does call fvOption in the "pEqn.H", but pimpleFoam does not. Therefore, you need to be careful about this.


Sorry for not providing the actual piece of code that does the access to the registered object, but I would need to test it first and I've got a lot I would like to take care of today...

Best regards,
Bruno
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Bruno,

Thanks for your reply. As you guessed, I don't want to wait until a time when fields are written--I want to write every timestep. What I want to do is very similar to what the forces function object does, but now I'm wondering if forces are written on the first PIMPLE loop in that...

The numbers are very close to each other in my case, so it's not a big problem so far, but I am just trying to be as correct as possible.
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What I want to do is very similar to what the forces function object does, but now I'm wondering if forces are written on the first PIMPLE loop in that...
Quick answer: Have a look into the method "Foam::Time::run()" in the file "src/OpenFOAM/db/Time/Time.C" and you'll see when the methods for the function objects are called.
As for the "run()" method, that is called whenever it's called directly be the solver or indirectly by the "simpleControl"/"pimpleControl", e.g.:
Code:
while (simple.loop())
{
  //....
}
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I have been trying to access the pimple object with

Code:
    // Write performance data if last PIMPLE iteration
    const solutionControl& pimple = mesh_.lookupObject<solutionControl>("pimple");
    if (pimple.finalNonOrthogonalIter() and Pstream::master())
    {
        writePerf();
    }
but I get the error

Code:
--> FOAM FATAL ERROR: 

    request for solutionControl pimple from objectRegistry region0 failed
    available objects of type solutionControl are
0()

    From function objectRegistry::lookupObject<Type>(const word&) const
    in file /home/pete/OpenFOAM/OpenFOAM-2.3.x/src/OpenFOAM/lnInclude/objectRegistryTemplates.C at line 198.
Is there somewhere else I should be trying to look up the solutionControl?
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Hi Pete,

I had this on my to-do list and only today did I manage to look into this.

The problem is that the "solutionControl" class derives from "IOobject" and not from "regIOobject", which is why it's not possible to get an instance of this object through the object database.

As far as I can figure out, there are roughly only two major solutions:
  1. To use a global/static C++ object that is made public in your custom library that has the "fvOption" and that the solver links and accesses to directly.
  2. Or to create a new class that derives from "regIOobject". The class structure would also have to be shared between the two (library and solver) and the access to the "solutionControl" would then be up to you.

As for making "solutionControl" class derive from "regIOobject" in OpenFOAM itself, I don't know if this makes much sense, since this is only useful in a few situations.

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Hi Bruno,

Thanks for your tireless efforts as usual!

Both solutions seem over my head, and may not be desirable, since I want to be compatible with the standard OpenFOAM. For now, I am writing every loop, and taking the last value in post-processing, which is quite easy with the Python Pandas library anyway.
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