CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Software User Forums > OpenFOAM > OpenFOAM Programming & Development

fvPatchFields - Description

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Like Tree16Likes
  • 15 Post By ngj
  • 1 Post By meindert

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   November 27, 2012, 16:20
Question fvPatchFields - Description
  #1
Member
 
Vitor Vasconcelos
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 33
Rep Power: 14
vitors is on a distinguished road
Hello all,

I'm studying how to implement a variable gradient boundary condition for temperature. Reading the OpenFOAM official documentation, most of the classes have no *detailed description*.

So my problem arises: how to know from which class derive my class? Of course I have a vague idea, but there is any more complete documentation about the set of classes implementing BCs?

Second question in the same post: any explanation on what is the *fvsPatchField* class? I mean, what does this "s" means?

Thanks a lot and sorry for any elementary question, but OpenFOAM documentation lacks some basic information to allow newcomers to "walk by themselves".

Vitor
vitors is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   November 28, 2012, 04:26
Default
  #2
Senior Member
 
Mohammad Shakil Ahmmed
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: AUS
Posts: 137
Rep Power: 15
ahmmedshakil is on a distinguished road
(1) *detailed description*--> For detailed description you can browse through the OpenFoam C++ documentation- (http://foam.sourceforge.net/docs/cpp/index.html) here all the class are listed, and also have UML diagram which represents the base and derived class
(2) "how to know from which class derive my class?"---> probably you have to read out the programmer's guide briefly, and there are several tutorials-and workshop slides for these stuffs.... dig them out!!!
(3)"*fvsPatchField* class?"---> An abstract base class with a fat interface to all derived classes covering all possible ways in which they might be used.

For newcomers, it would be better to worked out the various tutorials and workshop files....
ahmmedshakil is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   November 28, 2012, 06:53
Angry
  #3
Member
 
Vitor Vasconcelos
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 33
Rep Power: 14
vitors is on a distinguished road
Thank you ahmmedshakil,

Just to clarify, I have a background in Computer Science. I'm quite new to CFD field.

(1) *detailed description*--> For detailed description you can browse through the OpenFoam C++ documentation- (http://foam.sourceforge.net/docs/cpp/index.html) here all the class are listed, and also have UML diagram which represents the base and derived class

Believe me, I have been reading it in a daily basis. The *description* field is missing in MANY classes. That's the information I'm looking for. I need to understand the meaning of the classes, not only its interfaces. I know there is a bunch of different field classes, but would be great to have a DESCRIPTION to be able to know where/why one class was planned to be used. Another example? The turbulentHeatFluxTemperatureFvPatchScalarField has a description, but when trying to use it it's still necessary to "guess" you need to define a KName (which is not in the class description). These are only some examples...

(2) "how to know from which class derive my class?"---> probably you have to read out the programmer's guide briefly, and there are several tutorials-and workshop slides for these stuffs.... dig them out!!!

Sorry, but I assure you it's easier to get to the class information than in this forum. Let's say I am a newby, but no so newby.

(3)"*fvsPatchField* class?"---> An abstract base class with a fat interface to all derived classes covering all possible ways in which they might be used.

Oh, great. Do you realize that this quote of the documentation of fvsPatchField class means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING? So, can you answer a simple question? What the S means in this class? Why is it defined and what the diference to fvPatchField classes?
Please, don't say to me to look inside the source code. I can do that, I only don't have time to read the entire source code. I do that OFTEN. But even reading and re-reading the code it's IMPOSSIBLE to have an answer (sometimes only a guess).

I'm sorry, but I'm very tired from this kind of answer "check the source code, check the documentation". Believe me, it's not funny to write here and bother you with questions. If I could, I would be doing my job without wasting your time in the forum.

Regards,

Vitor
vitors is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   November 28, 2012, 07:40
Default
  #4
Senior Member
 
Mohammad Shakil Ahmmed
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: AUS
Posts: 137
Rep Power: 15
ahmmedshakil is on a distinguished road
Hi vitor,
I can feel your situation because I was in same sort of situation as like you.And I think I am still a newbie.But what I did to know about some issues- read out the forum and read out the work shop files.
ahmmedshakil is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   November 28, 2012, 07:56
Default
  #5
Member
 
Vitor Vasconcelos
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 33
Rep Power: 14
vitors is on a distinguished road
Thank you ahmmedshakil,

I'll keep checking the forum and investigating the documentation and source code. I don't know about you, but I have nobody around me which works with OpenFOAM, so I really rely on this forum to keep moving.

Good luck to us!

Vitor
vitors is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   November 28, 2012, 08:10
Default
  #6
ngj
Senior Member
 
Niels Gjoel Jacobsen
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
Posts: 1,902
Rep Power: 37
ngj will become famous soon enoughngj will become famous soon enough
Hi Vitor,

The difference between fvPatchField and fvsPatchField is that the former gives boundary conditions for volField<Type>, whereas the latter describes boundary conditions for surfaceField<Type>.

In the private data section of fvPatchField.H and fvsPatchField.H a reference to the internalField is declared. They read

Code:
const DimensionedField<Type, volMesh>& internalField_;
and

Code:
const DimensionedField<Type, surfaceMesh>& internalField_;
respectively (v. 1.5-dev, but I doubt it has changed). From this you can see that the internal field is either defined on a volume mesh or a surface mesh.

I hope this has helped you to understand things better.

Kind regards,

Niels
ngj is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   November 28, 2012, 08:15
Default
  #7
Member
 
Meindert de Groot
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 34
Rep Power: 14
meindert is on a distinguished road
Hi Vitor,

The difference between the fvPatchField and fvsPatchField is that the fvPatchField takes a volField as an argument and the fvsPatchField takes a surfaceField as an argument.
Ellie-1895 likes this.
meindert is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   December 10, 2012, 17:22
Question
  #8
Member
 
Vitor Vasconcelos
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 33
Rep Power: 14
vitors is on a distinguished road
Hello fellows,

I'll start replying myself. Sorry for that.
I've been doing research and diving into openfoam C++ documentation. I got some interesting results, but I am kind of stucked again.

I am implementing a BC based of fixedValueFvPatchField. Althought I want to change values in the future, I'm using this as base class as a training to understand openFoam BC's rationale.

Right now I'm able to read faces from my patch and, for example, get the normals of these faces. Quite promising, but I have two big doubts about how things work.

First one:

I created a mesh (following a former post of this forum) and based on it I got my patch (it is a wall which is a heat source) and was able to iterate over it face by face. I could do it using the mesh but I also tried to use a *this of my class. With both I got the same result. However, in my 0/T file I started my variable as nonuniform scalar from 1 to 840, which are the number of faces I have (attached are the my geometry).

My point is: how to access the different temperatures of each cell? I was wondering it could be stored as "weights" for faces. But the face.normal() and face.mag() are always the same.

My mesh is hexaedrical and, in fact, all faces have the same size. However, the nonuniform values are clearly different from cell to cell. Which data strucutres should I read?

The second point is also inside the first? is it ok to use a IOobject mesh to get values or is better to use this->patch().patch()?

My code is also attached. Sorry for the mess, but it is full of "Info" and very personal comments.

Code:
template<class Type>
cosFixedValueFvPatchField<Type>::cosFixedValueFvPatchField
(
    const fvPatch& p,
    const DimensionedField<Type, volMesh>& iF,
    const dictionary& dict
)
:
    fixedValueFvPatchField<Type>(p, iF),
    refValueLow_("refValueLow", dict, p.size()),
    refValueHigh_("refValueHigh", dict, p.size()),
    startRamp_(readScalar(dict.lookup("startRamp"))),
    endRamp_(readScalar(dict.lookup("endRamp"))),
    curTimeIndex_(-1)
{

    if (dict.found("value"))
    {
        fixedValueFvPatchField<Type>::operator==
        (
            Field<Type>("value", dict, p.size())
        );
    }
    else
    {
      Info << "|||||||||||| Entered fixedValue operator== |||||||||||\n" << endl;
        fixedValueFvPatchField<Type>::operator==
    (
     refValueLow_
    );
    }

    // Tentativa de ler o valor da gravidade
    uniformDimensionedVectorField gv(IOobject
                     ("g",
                      this->db().time().constant(),
                      this->db(),
                      IOobject::MUST_READ,
                      IOobject::NO_WRITE)
                     );
    Info << "---- Saida g: " << gv << endl;

    //Tentando variar os valores do proprio campo (patchField)

    // Cria o mesh
    Foam::fvMesh mesh(Foam::IOobject(
                     Foam::fvMesh::defaultRegion,
                     this->db().time().timeName(),
                     this->db().time(),
                     Foam::IOobject::MUST_READ
                     ));
 
    // Trying to understand the mesh and polypatch relation
    label patchID = mesh.boundaryMesh().findPatchID("combustivel");
    Info << "patchID: " << patchID << endl;

    //    const polyPatch& patchFound = mesh.boundaryMesh()[patchID];
    const polyPatch& patchFound = this->patch().patch();
    Info << "patchFound: \n" << patchFound << endl;

    labelList labelPatchFound( patchFound.meshPoints() );
    Info << "Tamanho da lista de pontos: " << labelPatchFound.size() << endl;

    vectorList faceNormals(patchFound.size(), vector::zero);
    scalarList faceMag(patchFound.size());
    
    Info << "Face inicial: " << patchFound.start() << endl;

    labelList minhasFaces(patchFound.faceCells());
    Info << "Tamanho da lista de faces: " << minhasFaces.size() << endl;

    // Verificando as direcoes do mesh
    Info << "geometricD: " << mesh.geometricD() << endl;

    // Tentar extrair apenas as faces com a normal no x positiva
    pointField meshPoints(mesh.points());
    
    unsigned int pr = 0;
    forAll(patchFound, faceI)
    {
      //    const face& myFace = mesh.boundaryMesh()[patchID][faceI]; 
        const face& myFace = this->patch().patch()[faceI]; 
    faceNormals[faceI] = myFace.normal(mesh.points());
    //    faceMag[faceI] = myFace.mag(mesh.points());
    if(faceNormals[faceI].x() > 0)
    {
      //Info << faceNormals[faceI] << " ";
      Info << faceI << " ";  
      pr++;
    }
    }
    Info << "\n\n--- Numero de faces com normal x positiva: " << pr << endl;
    const scalarField& pesos = this->patch().weights();
    Info << "size of scalarField: " << pesos.size() << 
      "scalarField: \n" << pesos << endl;
}
Thanks for your time,

Vitor
Attached Images
File Type: jpg nonuniform.jpg (51.6 KB, 74 views)
vitors is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
mass flow in is not equal to mass flow out saii CFX 12 March 19, 2018 06:21
error message cuteapathy CFX 14 March 20, 2012 07:45
Constant velocity of the material Sas CFX 15 July 13, 2010 09:56
Two-Phase Buoyant Flow Issue Miguel Baritto CFX 4 August 31, 2006 13:02
Transient natural gas flow description Leila FLUENT 0 November 29, 2003 17:06


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:48.