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November 16, 2009, 04:32 |
wall y+: physic meaning
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Hi,
I would like to know which is the physic meaning of the wall y+. Thanks! sara |
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November 16, 2009, 05:14 |
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y+ is a non dimensional distance from the wall
y+= (y*uf)/(µ/pho) y:distance from the wall uf: friction velocity = (du/dy) for y=0 (at the wall) */pho: cinematic velocity u+=u/uf u: velocity component parallel to the wall The physical meaning is that if u have a turbulent flow, for a y+<5, wich is very close from the wall, there is a region called viscous sublayer where the flow is laminar. This region only knows viscous stresses. u+=y+ when 5<y+<30: buffer layer , intermediate region 30<y+<500 (the upper limit can vary from a flow to another): log-region: turbulent stresses became dominant. u+=2.44 ln y+ + 5.5 The velocity profile here is not as much universal as in the viscous sublayer. It does not hold for cases with adverse pressure gradients....If the wall is not smooth, u must change the constants.... (the width of the log-layer is about 1/3 from the boundary layer: the rest is called defect region, and there exists correlations for veloity profile there for equilibrium boundary layers) In CFD simulations, u can resolve the whole bounday layer and in such case, u need a very fine mesh near the walls (gradients are very important there). This approach is expensive. (u must have y+=1 on the first near wall cell) U can instead use the wall law: u choose ure first cell to be in the log-law layer, and u dont need to resolve the whole boundary layer. This approach is more economic. However, it can lead to better results than the first one sometimes (if u are modeling the boundary layer with a non suitable equation by exemple: case very frequent when u use the k-epsilon model) |
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November 16, 2009, 05:25 |
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Ok thanks!
You are very kind! |
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November 16, 2009, 05:45 |
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no problem comrade. If u tell where do u need to apply it i can maybe give u more details
regards |
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