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Old   May 25, 2022, 07:45
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Hi, guys,

I am currently simulating a pipe flow with energy equation as shown in the following figure.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ecykqukl11...screenshot.PNG

I imposed the outflow boundary condition at the outlet. I wonder what actually happened with respect to temperature at the outlet?

Does Fluent apply the Neumann boundary ∂T/∂n = 0 ? or it extrapolate the temperature from the adjacent cell to the boundary ?

I've read the user manual of Fluent, it only mentions the diffusion flux is zero.

Thanks for your help
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My guess is, they don't forcefully set the temperature if you don't set a strong boundary condition that specifies temperature, and the outlet temperature is most likely to be calculated from the fluid equations.

The energy is a conserved variable, and thus, it's solved in every cell. So if you don't set a boundary condition enforcing temperature, then ANSYS won't try to enforce it.

In some cases practitioners may need to add a heating element to the boundary, and they'll specify the heat flux as a boundary condition. Such an example would be when you're trying to simulate cooling of a heated pipe, where the pipe wall is hot. That flux would be added as a source term.

So, if you use pressure outlet, or mass flow outlet, boundary conditions, only those specific conditions will be enforced. You can refer to them in the manual about the specific type of boundary condition.

Basically, ANSYS is just solving mathematical equations, and it's possible for us to create a badly defined case with unrealistic intial or boundary conditions, but they try to help us not make mistakes.
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Hi, guys,

I am currently simulating a pipe flow with energy equation as shown in the following figure.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ecykqukl11...screenshot.PNG

I imposed the outflow boundary condition at the outlet. I wonder what actually happened with respect to temperature at the outlet?

Does Fluent apply the Neumann boundary ∂T/∂n = 0 ? or it extrapolate the temperature from the adjacent cell to the boundary ?

I've read the user manual of Fluent, it only mentions the diffusion flux is zero.

Thanks for your help


That implies zero normal derivative.
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Thanks for the fast reply, I've checked the temperature profile along the center line in axial direction with cell center and nodal data as shown in following link:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ed0a0g136l...58.15.png?dl=0

The total length of my simulation is L=0.5.

It seems like it actually enforces the Neumman boundary at the outlet.
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Note however that it is just for the viscous part that it uses neumann conditions, which means that the viscous flux on the outflow faces is just skipped, but not the convective one.

Yet, while it is not mentioned, I'm pretty sure that they also do something for the gradient, which otherwise couldn't be computed at the outflow. But that just appears as a second order effect on the convection.
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