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Old   January 19, 2020, 12:56
Default Implementation of Neumann B.C on an oblique wall in FVM Code
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Hi guys!
does anyone know how to apply normal boundary condition to an oblique wall in Finite Volume code?
when alpha is zero and beta is 90 we can write PHI(NI,J)=PHI(NI-1,J) within a loop but what should we do about problems with oblique wall?


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n.Grad phi = known = nx *d phi/dx +ny*d phy/dy



you have a relation involving both derivatives at the boundary
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n.Grad phi = known = nx *d phi/dx +ny*d phy/dy



you have a relation involving both derivatives at the boundary



So thanks Filippo but i think by this relation we would have derivatives in x and y direction that cause some problems when implementation in code. Because the cells and i , j indexes are created in ksi and eta coordinate. Isnt that so?
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So thanks Filippo but i think by this relation we would have derivatives in x and y direction that cause some problems when implementation in code. Because the cells and i , j indexes are created in ksi and eta coordinate. Isnt that so?



I just wrote the normal derivative in cartesian components as example, you can express the relation n.Grad phi = g as better it fits your coordinates. The key is that you have a combination of the derivatives bu means of the components of the unit normal vector to the boundary
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I just wrote the normal derivative in cartesian components as example, you can express the relation n.Grad phi = g as better it fits your coordinates. The key is that you have a combination of the derivatives bu means of the components of the unit normal vector to the boundary

It means that should I use chain derivative rules to get a relation that fits to my Geometrical coordinates?
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It means that should I use chain derivative rules to get a relation that fits to my Geometrical coordinates?

You only need to chain rule when you are switching from your coordinate to another coordinate system. If you're already in ksi and eta then the same formula holds. You're taking the product of the normal vector and the gradient (n.grad()), no matter the expression in any coordinate system.
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so thanks. I did it!
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