CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > General Forums > Main CFD Forum

Order of accuracy in a combined scheme

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Like Tree2Likes
  • 1 Post By sbaffini
  • 1 Post By FMDenaro

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   July 21, 2017, 00:06
Default Order of accuracy in a combined scheme
  #1
New Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 19
Rep Power: 9
kaush is on a distinguished road
Hi

I am trying to use a combination of JST and ROE scheme for the RANS solution of an aerodynamic problem. I notice that the ROE scheme performs poorly in terms of the convergence in the drag counts for higher angle of attacks compared to the JST scheme. I am now wondering if to run the ROE scheme to a certain degree of convergence and then start the JST scheme for final convergence. Will the spatial order of accuracy of the ROE scheme be preserved? Do i get a more accurate solution than just running the JST scheme for the beginning?

Regards

Kaush
kaush is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   July 21, 2017, 03:45
Default
  #2
Senior Member
 
Filippo Maria Denaro
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 6,882
Rep Power: 73
FMDenaro has a spectacular aura aboutFMDenaro has a spectacular aura aboutFMDenaro has a spectacular aura about
No, the final accuracy will depend on the scheme you use until to convergence. However, this is in my opinion a false problem for RANS where the magnitude of the model overcomes that of the local truncation error.
FMDenaro is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   July 21, 2017, 05:59
Default
  #3
New Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 19
Rep Power: 9
kaush is on a distinguished road
I did not quite understand the last statement. Is it true even If I get a convergence of upto 5 decades in the residue and use a different scheme to smoothen? Actually the problem can be viewed as converging to the attractor using different time operators (for example the ROE scheme or JST scheme) so the answer seems surprising for me
kaush is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   July 21, 2017, 06:04
Default
  #4
Senior Member
 
sbaffini's Avatar
 
Paolo Lampitella
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Italy
Posts: 2,192
Blog Entries: 29
Rep Power: 39
sbaffini will become famous soon enoughsbaffini will become famous soon enough
Send a message via Skype™ to sbaffini
Also, as soon as you change your scheme, your residuals will suddenly jump up. This may be useful only if you have problems in starting a case and propagating the main flow information with a given scheme. But this might as well indicate a problem in the scheme.
FMDenaro likes this.
sbaffini is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   July 21, 2017, 06:15
Default
  #5
Senior Member
 
Filippo Maria Denaro
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 6,882
Rep Power: 73
FMDenaro has a spectacular aura aboutFMDenaro has a spectacular aura aboutFMDenaro has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaush View Post
I did not quite understand the last statement. Is it true even If I get a convergence of upto 5 decades in the residue and use a different scheme to smoothen? Actually the problem can be viewed as converging to the attractor using different time operators (for example the ROE scheme or JST scheme) so the answer seems surprising for me
The magnitude of the modelling does not depend on convergence... in RANS, even if you would be able to vanish the LTE the solution will strongly depend on the model
kaush likes this.
FMDenaro is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   July 21, 2017, 06:47
Default
  #6
New Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 19
Rep Power: 9
kaush is on a distinguished road
Thanks I always thought of this as a way of residual smoothing
kaush is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply

Tags
jst, rans, roe scheme


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
can you tell me best gradient, pressure & momentum order selection in fluent sanjiiv FLUENT 6 February 14, 2020 07:07
Code verification of second order scheme kmandar SU2 0 June 26, 2016 11:28
upwind finite volume order of accuracy less than one ?? dgfem Main CFD Forum 7 June 1, 2015 05:02
discretization error and order of accuracy Phil_ OpenFOAM Running, Solving & CFD 0 November 19, 2014 08:52
Order of accuracy: 1st or 2nd order? fisch OpenFOAM Running, Solving & CFD 2 July 6, 2011 05:37


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:06.