|
[Sponsors] |
Basic turbulence concepts, vortex stretching energy cascade concepts help |
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | Display Modes |
August 4, 2013, 06:34 |
Basic turbulence concepts, vortex stretching energy cascade concepts help
|
#1 |
New Member
Muhammad Irti
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 5
Rep Power: 13 |
Hi guys. i am a newbie in studying turbulence in cfd. I am really having hard time getting basic concepts of turbulence like, how and why vortices are formed, vortex stretching concept, energy cascade, stability theory etc. I am unable to fully understand first few pages of malaseekra's book chapter 3.
So any help regarding clearing the mentioned topics above would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance |
|
August 4, 2013, 06:59 |
|
#2 |
Senior Member
cfdnewbie
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 557
Rep Power: 20 |
Here are two videos I found on youtube that show nicely how vortex stretching creates a range of scales. Maybe this helps you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59LL_IRs1MQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaABLY6E8HE It shows the stretching. turning and reconnection mechanisms quite nicely. |
|
August 4, 2013, 07:14 |
|
#3 |
New Member
Muhammad Irti
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 5
Rep Power: 13 |
@cfdnewbie
seems like these two videos are way too complex to be understood by me. No commentary no nothing, no understanding of what is flow direction,( just seem like some colors are randomly mixing in a bucket of paint) so kindly suggest some better notes |
|
August 4, 2013, 07:53 |
|
#4 |
Senior Member
cfdnewbie
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 557
Rep Power: 20 |
What you are seeing is the interavction of two perpendicular vortices in a periodic box, and how they create a turbulent cascade. This is the basic mechanism that produces a range of scales, and thus, turbulence.
|
|
August 4, 2013, 08:29 |
|
#5 |
New Member
Muhammad Irti
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 5
Rep Power: 13 |
thanks, but i am well below that level to even understand that..
Can you recommend me a book |
|
August 4, 2013, 14:17 |
|
#6 | |
Senior Member
Filippo Maria Denaro
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 6,896
Rep Power: 73 |
Quote:
|
||
August 4, 2013, 14:53 |
|
#7 | |
Senior Member
cfdnewbie
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 557
Rep Power: 20 |
Quote:
Two great books, it doesnt get much better than Pope, but I would start with the second one - very easy to read, the kind of book you can into the bathtub and still learn a lot! |
||
August 4, 2013, 17:37 |
|
#8 |
New Member
Muhammad Irti
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 5
Rep Power: 13 |
Thank you Fmdenaro and cfdnewbie, i will definitely go through the books as both are available in library and will inform you if i face any problem. thank you soooooo much
|
|
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Discussion: Reason of Turbulence!! | Wen Long | Main CFD Forum | 3 | May 15, 2009 10:52 |
hybrid value for Turbulence Kinectic Energy? | ALice | CFX | 0 | January 13, 2006 02:24 |
fundamental concepts of turbulence | sarah_ron | Main CFD Forum | 2 | January 20, 2005 10:56 |
Is turbulence disripable by chaos? | Matthias | Main CFD Forum | 9 | March 27, 2001 14:04 |
Why FVM for high-Re flows? | Zhong Lei | Main CFD Forum | 23 | May 14, 1999 14:22 |