CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Software User Forums > ANSYS > FLUENT

Species transport model problem

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Like Tree2Likes
  • 2 Post By epc1

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   April 5, 2010, 21:31
Question Species transport model problem
  #1
New Member
 
Ján
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Slovakia
Posts: 24
Rep Power: 16
argeus is on a distinguished road
Hi,
I ve got a problem with species transport model reaction simulation. I have to simulate a supersonic combustion 2H2+O2->2H2O in a nozzle. Because of supersonic flow I use a coupled solver and standard k-eps and thats why I use species transport. Problem is, that when I try to use eddy-dissip. interaction model there was no reaction at all. Initializing of solution with high temperature and non zero fuel content does not help. And when I adjust the high temperature condition at pressure inlet (in some cases I need 1800K and maybe more) the solution has a convergence problem (courant number set to 0.5 and no solution). Some ideas why the reaction mechanism does not work? For instance, how the fluent knows an activation energy of the reaction by using eddy-dissip? Its good idea to use a eddy-dissip?
Thank you very much in advance...
argeus is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   August 28, 2010, 22:15
Default
  #2
New Member
 
aditya
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 10
Rep Power: 16
hello2ap is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by argeus View Post
Hi,
I ve got a problem with species transport model reaction simulation. I have to simulate a supersonic combustion 2H2+O2->2H2O in a nozzle. Because of supersonic flow I use a coupled solver and standard k-eps and thats why I use species transport. Problem is, that when I try to use eddy-dissip. interaction model there was no reaction at all. Initializing of solution with high temperature and non zero fuel content does not help. And when I adjust the high temperature condition at pressure inlet (in some cases I need 1800K and maybe more) the solution has a convergence problem (courant number set to 0.5 and no solution). Some ideas why the reaction mechanism does not work? For instance, how the fluent knows an activation energy of the reaction by using eddy-dissip? Its good idea to use a eddy-dissip?
Thank you very much in advance...
i also have the same problem
hello2ap is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   October 19, 2010, 09:08
Default
  #3
Member
 
Marta's Avatar
 
Marta Lazzarin
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Italy
Posts: 71
Rep Power: 17
Marta is on a distinguished road
Hi All, I am experiencing the same problem, but i cannot use the coupled solver, because my laptop can't afford occupying all that memory.
Now I am trying using lower relaxation factors for species conservation equations. Up to now, i did not manage to make my simulation converge.

Have you found a solution?

Thanks in advance,

Marta
Marta is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 11, 2013, 12:16
Default
  #4
Member
 
Jenny
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 34
Rep Power: 15
Jenny_W is on a distinguished road
Hi Everyone,
I am modelling compressible non-combustion reacting flow in FLUENT and facing the same problem. I tried all species transport models and increasing inlet temperature but they didn't work.
If anyone knows what may have gone wrong, please give me some suggestions.
Thank you,
Jenny
Jenny_W is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 11, 2013, 13:17
Default
  #5
Member
 
Ernesto
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 30
Rep Power: 14
epc1 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jenny_W View Post
Hi Everyone,
I am modelling compressible non-combustion reacting flow in FLUENT and facing the same problem. I tried all species transport models and increasing inlet temperature but they didn't work.
If anyone knows what may have gone wrong, please give me some suggestions.
Thank you,
Jenny

Hello Jenny, can you be more specific on what is happening? Are reactions not happening at all?
epc1 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 11, 2013, 17:50
Default
  #6
Member
 
Jenny
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 34
Rep Power: 15
Jenny_W is on a distinguished road
Hi,
Thank you for your reply.
I am modelling atmospheric reactions which are not available in FLUENT library.

I have to fill in the reaction mechanism (including kinetic parameters) in the reaction panel.

I use k-e model. I choose species transport and turbulence-chemistry interactions (laminar finite rate, EDC etc).

After setting BCs, I initialise and patch a region of high temperature. The simulation runs for a few thousand iterations but there was no reaction - no products formed and the kinetic rate of reaction is zero.

Would you advise what could have gone wrong?
Thank you,
Jenny
Jenny_W is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 11, 2013, 19:02
Default
  #7
Member
 
Ernesto
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 30
Rep Power: 14
epc1 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jenny_W View Post
Hi,
Thank you for your reply.
I am modelling atmospheric reactions which are not available in FLUENT library.

I have to fill in the reaction mechanism (including kinetic parameters) in the reaction panel.

I use k-e model. I choose species transport and turbulence-chemistry interactions (laminar finite rate, EDC etc).

After setting BCs, I initialise and patch a region of high temperature. The simulation runs for a few thousand iterations but there was no reaction - no products formed and the kinetic rate of reaction is zero.

Would you advise what could have gone wrong?
Thank you,
Jenny
Ok Jenny,

You also have to patch in the products of the chemical reaction in order for it to procede.

Hope this helps
Jenny_W and marauder like this.
epc1 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 12, 2013, 04:50
Default
  #8
Member
 
Jenny
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 34
Rep Power: 15
Jenny_W is on a distinguished road
Hi Ernesto,
I will do that. Thank you very much for your help.
Regards,
Jenny
Jenny_W is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   September 20, 2019, 08:23
Default Scramjet combustion
  #9
New Member
 
Jeyakumar
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: India
Posts: 1
Rep Power: 0
sjeyakumar1974@gmail.com is on a distinguished road
Can any one suggest for scramjet combustion procedure using ansys fluent?
sjeyakumar1974@gmail.com is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply

Tags
species transport


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
questions about species transport through walls shuqin FLUENT 13 April 9, 2014 03:42
Species transport Eisa FLUENT 0 May 17, 2006 09:26
Species transport Eisa FLUENT 0 May 17, 2006 05:40
problem with MFR model for multiphase mixing tanks Srinivas Main CFD Forum 1 November 7, 2005 15:16
3D species transport model - 1 co2 FLUENT 1 April 23, 2004 05:20


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 13:46.