Hello All,

I have a mass flow rate (0.0468 kg/s) outlet result for a 2D model and need to apply this to a 3D model for inlet mass flow rate boundary. What does this mass flow rate means in term of 3D? How can I use this result and apply to the 3D model?

Thank you

Was your 2D model axisymmetric? If yes then the mass flow rate is real. Apply directly to the 3D model.

[dokeun]

hello~ everyone

I have a another question about this post

What if I have mass flow rate for 3d and i want to apply that flow rate to

2d axisymmetric casek for reducing computational cost?

[-mAx-]

Same date for axisymmetric and 3d.
But you can also use velocity inlet, and check the massflow rate (report/)

[Marta]

Dear All, I have simulated a combustion flow in CFX some time ago. It was possible to define a surface which was a wall, but from which some reacting species were inserted into the domain.
This boundary was a wall+source, so that I was able to specify both mass fractions of the various species and the mass flow rate coming in; it was also possible to have a certain heat flux at that boundary. It was one of the parameters calculated during the simulation.

Is there a similar condition in Fluent? 'cause i saw just traditional walls and mass flow inlet boundaries.

If not, is there any other way to make Fluent do what i need?
(which is basically introducing a certain amount of mass from the boundary, with specified mass fractions and calculating the heat flux without imposing it at the beginning).

Thanks a lot

Marta

[Tanjina]

Hi all,

In my 2D model, I found negative mass flow rate in everywhere except in the inlet. What does it mean? Please enlighten me . Thanks in advance.

[flotus1]

It means that the flow exits the computational domain.

[Tanjina]

Originally Posted by flotus1

It means that the flow exits the computational domain.

Thank you flotus for your answer. Can you be a little bit more specific, I didn't understand what are you trying to mean, unfortunately .

[flotus1]

Boundary faces like an inlet have an orientation, indicated by the normal vector of the face.

For example the normal vector of the inlet face points towards the computational domain. If the flux vector is pointing in the same direction,
the mass flow rate is positive (the flow enters the computational domain).

For faces where the normal vector and the flux vector are pointing in opposite directions, the mass flow rate is negative.
For an outlet this indicates that the flow is leaving the domain.

[Tanjina]

Originally Posted by flotus1

Boundary faces like an inlet have an orientation, indicated by the normal vector of the face.

For example the normal vector of the inlet face points towards the computational domain. If the flux vector is pointing in the same direction,
the mass flow rate is positive (the flow enters the computational domain).

For faces where the normal vector and the flux vector are pointing in opposite directions, the mass flow rate is negative.
For an outlet this indicates that the flow is leaving the domain.

Thank you Flotus for explaining this. That means for this model normal vector of the outlet face points outwards of the domain. Then it should be negative for all the model where flow is allowed to leaving the domain, right ?

[rgd]

I am facing the same problem of negative mass flow rate & I don't quite understand what's meant by the fluid's leaving the domain.
Isn't the direction of my flow supposed to be the same at all positions? and that's what I'm getting when I display the velocity vectors, then how come my mass flow rate is negative?
Please help me understand this.

[pakk]

Originally Posted by Raghdinia

I am facing the same problem of negative mass flow rate & I don't quite understand what's meant by the fluid's leaving the domain.

Suppose you are doing a simulation of water flowing through a pipe, flowing from left to right. At the left side, the water comes into your simulation, and Fluent will show a positive mass flow rate. At the right side, water goes out of your simulation, and Fluent will show a negative mass flow rate.

Isn't the direction of my flow supposed to be the same at all positions?

In general: no. There is no reason why your flow can not change direction (unless you are simulating a trivial situation).

[rgd]

Thanks a lot Pakk, that was really helpful

[saeed]

Hi all
I want to measure Flow rate in a Manifold with one inlet and two outlet in Fluent.
my question is that, how can I measure the flow rate at the beginning of every path?

In Report.....could be just measure the flow rate in Inlet and Outlet.

I used the Iso Surface to define a surface but because entrances of both of the paths are in a same surface, I need a way to define a surface for every path separately!!

Thanks alot

(I attached my model's pic)

[divergence]

So you want to check the mass flow in the two outlet channels? The reports for both of the outlets would suffice surely, but if you would like to check how the flow field develops in the y direction, you could just creat a surface (y=0 m or something like that which would intersect both of the channels) and then iso-clip them into submission. Now you have two separate surfaces for your monitoring pleasures!

[saeed]

Thanks a milllllllion divergence my problem was solved
by your guidance,

Thanks alot