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May 12, 2004, 23:50 |
viscous resistance coefficients in Porous media
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I have a question about setting resistance coefficients in a porous media problem.
Based on my experiment, I knew some info on pressure drop, so I calculated permeability(alpha called in Fluent 6.1). In Fluent 6.1 pannel, is it correct that i put 1/alpha as a resistance coefficients? The value is 8682372. (alpha=0.000000115). I got a converged solution, but I am not sure whether I did it right. Last question is about what the physical/superficial velocity is in perous media. I read a old manual(6.0), which did not explain well about physical velocity. Which is recommeded to set a porous media problem? Million thanks in advance. cho |
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May 13, 2004, 12:44 |
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cho:
settting up of coeff is explained very well in the fluent manual. please read 6.19.6 User Inputs for Porous Media carefully -- you dont need anyones advice on that -- if you have specific question about the content of this page, let know. now about physical vel -- the way i understand it is as follows : please some one correct me if i am wrong. porous media is basically just a momentum sink and generally in all the porous media related equations, we need superficial vel. that is not the actual vel with which you fluid is moving in the pores -- but physical velocity kind of gives you a measure of that actual fluid velocity. |
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May 14, 2004, 11:50 |
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How about your local pressures calculated in Fluent? Match with experimental?
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June 21, 2011, 19:08 |
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I want to model a micro filter, This filter (membrane) is rectangular (10×5 cm) with the thickness 12e-5. so,I calculate this parameters from Ergun equation which D=1e-6, because of the Micro filter type. is this assumption true??
i think this is very thin filter so there in not flow through in the membrane, in this situation is inertial coefficieant higher in Y direction? or not?when i set y-direction inertial coefficient higher than x-direction got better answer! is this resonable? I am looking forward to hearing from you. Sincerely yours |
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September 14, 2013, 07:18 |
hello guys,
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I have trouble finding the alpha and beta values for modelling plasma (blood ) flow through a porous media which acts as the filter. All i have is the porosoity report and material properties.
Is it possible to calculate the inertial and viscous co-efficients ? |
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September 16, 2013, 03:34 |
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I suppose that you should consider your own experimental set-up to extract the interest variables. Refer to Fluent theory guide.
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September 16, 2013, 04:37 |
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The superfical velocity = volume flow rate / flow area of porous media.
physical velocity = superfical velocity / porosity. If you have some experiment data of pressure drop, you can fit them by a quadratic function: dP = a*v^2 + b*v + c. (v is superfical velocity) The inertial coeff. = 2*a/density; viscous coeff. = b/dynamic viscosity. |
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April 22, 2014, 02:46 |
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I am getting a negative value for permeability since my graph has a negative linear coeff. and I cannot input a negative value for permeability in the porous media should I just neglect it being negative? Thank you in advance. -will |
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December 15, 2014, 16:15 |
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tnx about your this comment can u say to me what is your source?for this note? |
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December 15, 2014, 21:01 |
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Look at equation (7-2) here: https://www.sharcnet.ca/Software/Flu...sect_porous_mv
In quantities' post, corresponds to in (7-2) and corresponds to . I'm not sure about the in quantities's equation. |
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