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March 24, 2024, 04:13 |
How to find U* for wall roughness in LES model
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Karthik V
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Hello everyone,
I’m studying the wall roughness effects on a wall using LES turbulence model. In Ansys Fluent 2024 R1, 3 new method is introduced for LES viscous model to change the effect of wall roughness and they are: Kader Blending Wall Functions Harmonic Blending Wall Functions Based on r+ Werner and Wengle Wall Treatment Out of these 3 methods, we can give physical roughness only for Harmonic Blending Wall Functions Based on r+ For wall roughness effects in turbulent wall-bounded flows, we have three distinct roughness regimes based on a nondimensional roughness height K_s^+. Hydrodynamically smooth when (K_s^+≤2.25) Transitional when ( 2.25〖<K〗_s^+≤2.25) Fully rough when (K_s^+>90) Here to find out K_s^+, we have the formula: K_s^+=ρK_s u^*/μ Where, ρ= Density of the fluid K_s= Physical wall roughness height μ= Viscosity of the fluid u^*=C_μ^(1/4) k^(1/2) C_μ value is given a default value in k-ϵ viscous model. Whereas it’s not mentioned in LES turbulence model. My query is how to obtain the u^* value from Ansys Fluent, so that I can identify the distinct roughness regime by substituting the physical wall roughness height and other parameters |
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March 24, 2024, 17:02 |
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Lucky
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The difference between u* and u+ is the factor of C_mu^(1/4)
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March 28, 2024, 03:53 |
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Karthik V
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Thank you Lucky for your response,
I am still not having good clarity because from the web resources I found that the Friction velocity term u* does not depend on u+ in LES turbulence model. This relation goes well with k-ϵ and in k-ω turbulence models and c_μ is defined in those models. I also found the regular formula to find the u* in terms of shear stress and density. u^*= √(τ_w/ρ) Where, τ_w= Wall shear stress ρ= Density And similarly for u+ u^+=u/u^* Where, u= Velocity magnitude Can I use the above equation to find the k_s^+ , and to identify the roughness regimes? Is this the correct approach for the LES model? |
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harmonic wall, les model, u star |
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