Variable Energy Source Terms using Scheme

mir9283 · May 25, 2018, 08:03

Hi,

I'm trying to model a solid cube as a variable heatsource. Therefore I have enabled the source-terms in the cell-condition-window where I can choose between 1 and 10 heatsources. Also you can choose the value of the heatsource by selecting none, constant or New Parameter.
As I want the heatsource to be variable I chose New Parameter and I'm now trying to write a Scheme file that changes the value at a determined timestep (e.g. 1 s). The values are given in an excel-sheet.

I found the following code in the Ansys help (Fluent User's Guide: 6.1.8.2.3. Using the Text User Interface to Define UDFs and Scheme Procedures With Input Parameters) but as I'm new to Scheme I have no idea how to write a function that gets the values from the excel-sheet (or txt-file, if it's easier).

(define my-funct
(lambda (value )
(ti-menu-load-string (format #f "/solve/set/under-relaxation/pressure ~g" value))))

Maybe it is easier to use a UDF or there is even another way to do this like using a profile for heatflux.

I hope that someone could help me with that.

Thanks a lot

Greets
Mike

LuckyTran · May 25, 2018, 12:12

There is a much easier way. Indeed too many people jump straight to coding a UDF and fall into a rabbit hole.

Create what is called a PROFILE in Fluent. It is just a text file with two blocks, one for time and another block for your heat (it can also accept a two column format).

In the GUI: go to cell zone conditions and click Profiles... Then read in the text file you created. Now when you go to source terms, in addition to none, constant, New Input Parameter, you will also find your named profile.

You can find an example in the user's guide in
User's Guide => Cell Zone and Boundary Conditions => Profiles => Defining Transient Cell Zone and Boundary Condition Profiles

Code:

((sampleprofile transient 3 0)
(time
1
2
3
)
(u
10
20
30
) 
)

The tabular format looks like so:

Code:

sampletabprofile 2 3 0
time u
1 10
2 20
3 30

The 0 means this is not a periodic profile. The 3 means there are 3 data. Change this 3 for your setup to whatever number. In the last example with tabular format, the 2 means there is two fields (the time field and u field). If you have only time and heat then you will also use 2. Everything is in Fluent standard units.

mir9283 · May 28, 2018, 07:55

Thank you very much LuckyTran

I used the profiles before for heatflux boundary conditions but I couldn't find anything in the Ansys Help thatit's possible to use this for Source Terms too.

mohsen_a_s · May 28, 2018, 15:55

Hi.

I am trying to model a transient heat source based on the equation (q)=(a)*(b). Both (a) and (b) are transient parameters and I have their values in two different excel files.
I know that it is possible to calculate the (q) manually and then use a PROFILE in Fluent, but I am going to do it with a UDF. Can any one please tell me about how to write the UDF and the appropriate macros?

May 25, 2018, 08:03	Variable Energy Source Terms using Scheme	#1
mir9283 New Member Mike Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 8	Hi, I'm trying to model a solid cube as a variable heatsource. Therefore I have enabled the source-terms in the cell-condition-window where I can choose between 1 and 10 heatsources. Also you can choose the value of the heatsource by selecting none, constant or New Parameter. As I want the heatsource to be variable I chose New Parameter and I'm now trying to write a Scheme file that changes the value at a determined timestep (e.g. 1 s). The values are given in an excel-sheet. I found the following code in the Ansys help (Fluent User's Guide: 6.1.8.2.3. Using the Text User Interface to Define UDFs and Scheme Procedures With Input Parameters) but as I'm new to Scheme I have no idea how to write a function that gets the values from the excel-sheet (or txt-file, if it's easier). (define my-funct (lambda (value ) (ti-menu-load-string (format #f "/solve/set/under-relaxation/pressure ~g" value)))) Maybe it is easier to use a UDF or there is even another way to do this like using a profile for heatflux. I hope that someone could help me with that. Thanks a lot Greets Mike

May 25, 2018, 12:12		#2
LuckyTran Senior Member Lucky Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Orlando, FL USA Posts: 5,754 Rep Power: 66	There is a much easier way. Indeed too many people jump straight to coding a UDF and fall into a rabbit hole. Create what is called a PROFILE in Fluent. It is just a text file with two blocks, one for time and another block for your heat (it can also accept a two column format). In the GUI: go to cell zone conditions and click Profiles... Then read in the text file you created. Now when you go to source terms, in addition to none, constant, New Input Parameter, you will also find your named profile. You can find an example in the user's guide in User's Guide => Cell Zone and Boundary Conditions => Profiles => Defining Transient Cell Zone and Boundary Condition Profiles Code: ((sampleprofile transient 3 0) (time 1 2 3 ) (u 10 20 30 ) ) The tabular format looks like so: Code: sampletabprofile 2 3 0 time u 1 10 2 20 3 30 The 0 means this is not a periodic profile. The 3 means there are 3 data. Change this 3 for your setup to whatever number. In the last example with tabular format, the 2 means there is two fields (the time field and u field). If you have only time and heat then you will also use 2. Everything is in Fluent standard units. mir9283 likes this.

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May 28, 2018, 07:55		#3
mir9283 New Member Mike Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 8	Thank you very much LuckyTran I used the profiles before for heatflux boundary conditions but I couldn't find anything in the Ansys Help thatit's possible to use this for Source Terms too.

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mohsen_a_s New Member mohsen Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Hi. I am trying to model a transient heat source based on the equation (q)=(a)*(b). Both (a) and (b) are transient parameters and I have their values in two different excel files. I know that it is possible to calculate the (q) manually and then use a PROFILE in Fluent, but I am going to do it with a UDF. Can any one please tell me about how to write the UDF and the appropriate macros?