CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Software User Forums > ANSYS > FLUENT

Simulating liquid metal in Fluent

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Like Tree2Likes
  • 1 Post By ghost82
  • 1 Post By Shamoon Jamshed

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   October 14, 2014, 13:35
Default Simulating liquid metal in Fluent
  #1
Senior Member
 
Shamoon Jamshed
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Karachi
Posts: 381
Rep Power: 18
Shamoon Jamshed is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Skype™ to Shamoon Jamshed
Hi,

I want to simulate the effect of liquid metal pool and solid metal (combined). The liquid metal is constantly being heated due to the presence of heat source. This will melt the surrounding metal which is currently in the solid state.

What I did was that
1. I made a rectangular geometry and made a small rectangle on its top side.
2. I then specified the small rectangle as fluid zone and the lower big rectangle as solid. In fluent, I then specified liquid metal properties.
3. I made interface between solid and liquid parts.
4. I specified the newly created walls (formed from the interfaces) the Marangoni stress (as saw in a tutorial of solidfication and melting in ANSYS FLUENT).
5. I also turned on the solidification adn melting option. Specified the fluid zone in Cell Zone condition with Source term and then add the energy source term as 10,000 W/m3. I specifed the top wall of small rectangle as wall but with Mar. stress and gave temperature of 1000K.
6. I ran unsteady simulation but the melting effect is not appearing.
7. The temperature is high in the liquid metal region but only 50% rest of the liquid metal region and solid are mostly at 300K. There should be temperature variation w.r.t time. It should be like T shape (the melted region)

Please help me out.
Shamoon Jamshed is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   January 22, 2015, 08:27
Default Simulating liquid metal flow
  #2
Senior Member
 
Shamoon Jamshed
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Karachi
Posts: 381
Rep Power: 18
Shamoon Jamshed is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Skype™ to Shamoon Jamshed
Please help me out in this problem
Shamoon Jamshed is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   January 22, 2015, 08:34
Default
  #3
Senior Member
 
ghost82's Avatar
 
Rick
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,016
Rep Power: 27
ghost82 will become famous soon enough
Hi, the macro error is that you defined two zones: fluid and solid.
You must defined only one fluid zone.
When you define the liquid properties you must set liquidus and solidus temperatures.
When initialize patch appropriate temperatures, then before starting calculation check from countour charts if all is initialized correctly.
Once you start the calculation if the heat source is strong enough you will see the solid phase melting.

Daniele
jamalf64 likes this.
__________________
Google is your friend and the same for the search button!

Last edited by ghost82; January 22, 2015 at 10:01.
ghost82 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   January 22, 2015, 08:54
Default
  #4
Senior Member
 
Shamoon Jamshed
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Karachi
Posts: 381
Rep Power: 18
Shamoon Jamshed is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Skype™ to Shamoon Jamshed
I know that solidus and liquidus temperatures are activated only if solidification and melting model is turned on in Fluent. How I can see solid zone melting if not defined initially. From your reply I can assume to model only one region and that is the fluid. Do I need to give properties of liquid metal there? Where to specify the Marangoni stresses?
cfdudf likes this.
Shamoon Jamshed is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   January 22, 2015, 08:58
Default
  #5
Senior Member
 
ghost82's Avatar
 
Rick
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,016
Rep Power: 27
ghost82 will become famous soon enough
By patching temperatures at time 0 in post processing you can see where solid and liquid are (contours of liquid fraction).
Read carefully this tutorial:
http://www.engr.uconn.edu/~barbertj/...2012/tut22.pdf
__________________
Google is your friend and the same for the search button!
ghost82 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   January 22, 2015, 10:35
Default
  #6
Senior Member
 
Shamoon Jamshed
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Karachi
Posts: 381
Rep Power: 18
Shamoon Jamshed is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Skype™ to Shamoon Jamshed
In my case I have no pull velocity, what to do?
Shamoon Jamshed is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   January 22, 2015, 10:39
Default
  #7
Senior Member
 
ghost82's Avatar
 
Rick
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,016
Rep Power: 27
ghost82 will become famous soon enough
Just uncheck "include pull velocities".
__________________
Google is your friend and the same for the search button!
ghost82 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   January 22, 2015, 11:09
Default
  #8
Senior Member
 
Shamoon Jamshed
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Karachi
Posts: 381
Rep Power: 18
Shamoon Jamshed is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Skype™ to Shamoon Jamshed
Thanks ghost82. Would you mind if I send you my case and data files so that you may have some additional comments/suggestions?
Shamoon Jamshed is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   January 22, 2015, 11:46
Default
  #9
Senior Member
 
ghost82's Avatar
 
Rick
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,016
Rep Power: 27
ghost82 will become famous soon enough
I have no problem to check your files; however, I suggest you to setup your simulation, check results, try to understand if something goes wrong and try to fix it, and post here your problems if you can't solve them.
__________________
Google is your friend and the same for the search button!
ghost82 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   January 22, 2015, 11:50
Default
  #10
Senior Member
 
Shamoon Jamshed
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Karachi
Posts: 381
Rep Power: 18
Shamoon Jamshed is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Skype™ to Shamoon Jamshed
I have solved the problem , thanks for your help, but I want to show you for my confidence. Please send me your email address.
Thanks
Shamoon Jamshed is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   April 30, 2016, 09:01
Thumbs up
  #11
Ved
New Member
 
Vedant Dwivedi
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 5
Rep Power: 10
Ved is on a distinguished road
Can u give the snapshot for the boundary setting of ur successful melting process in fluent. @Shamoon Jamshed
Ved is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Simulating movement of air from low to high pressure in Fluent jwillie2000 FLUENT 0 April 11, 2013 05:18
Simulating combustion in fluent Silvia FLUENT 0 September 18, 2011 20:20
Fluent jobs through pbs ibnkureshi FLUENT 5 June 9, 2011 14:43
Circulator Simulating with Fluent Software arya FLUENT 0 March 14, 2009 03:56
liquid fluidization and fluent Venkat Narayan FLUENT 0 January 9, 2006 22:30


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:43.