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April 19, 2012, 08:34 |
Cavitation, papers and my other stuff
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Matevz Dular
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Hello everybody,
I'm not very active on CFD Online since about 2005 but people still contact me frequently regarding cavitation, cavitation erosion, bubble dynamics and other stuff I did in back then. That's why I set-up a web page where you can find all my papers and a youtube channel with some movies of simulations and experiments from different fields that I did. I hope you'll find it useful. If you have any questions please contact me! www2.arnes.si/~mdula/ http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMHR...tAYzQp5zg/feed Best regards, Mateus |
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May 12, 2012, 10:15 |
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samir
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Hi ,
I am using Fluent to simulate steady and unsteady turbulent flow around marine propeller. Please could you help me to know cavitation simulation steps in fluent. Best regards. |
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May 20, 2012, 13:19 |
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Rick
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Hi Matevz,
thank you very much for the material, I appreciate very much. I see that you have successfully simulated ultrasonic transducers with fluent, by setting a sinusoidal position of the horn tip, am I right?..I will further investigate in it. If you can, can you upload "Dynamics of attached cavitation at an ultrasonic horn tip" somewhere? Again, thank you. Daniele EDIT: do you confirm that in the article "Numerical Simulation of a Near-Wall Bubble Collapse in an Ultrasonic Field" b should be 2*10^-8 and not -2*10^-8? Last edited by ghost82; May 20, 2012 at 14:05. |
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May 28, 2012, 04:48 |
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Rick
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Hi!
I'm having some trouble in trying to reproduce a similar simulation to that of Matevz, in paper "Numerical Simulation of a Near-Wall Bubble Collapse in an Ultrasonic Field". Attached is my case: a 2ddp axisymmetric simulation in which all the bottom wall moves changing its position sinusoidally. At the first time I set a constant density for the liquid, so liquid was incompressible and I wasn't able to view the pressure wave propagation.. I think that this is related to liquid compressibility, so I wrote an udf to take into account this aspect. Interno and bottomwall are rigid bodies, outlet is stationary. I set a velocity profile which reproduce the x coordinate movement: x=a*sin(2*pi*f*t) a=0,2 micron, f=33000 Hz Bottom wall starts to move when it is at its lowest position. However, with liquid compressibility I have divergence in amg solver I played with urf and v-w-c cycle, flexible, but I continue to receive amg divergence.. Any help please? Thank you! Daniele Last edited by ghost82; May 28, 2012 at 09:03. |
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May 28, 2012, 09:04 |
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Rick
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I think I solved my problem
My operating pressure point was attached to the bottom wall and this created the amg divergence error..now the pressure wave seems to propagate.. |
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May 28, 2012, 19:09 |
Cavitation simulation procedures using Fluent
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samir
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Hello Daniel,
I am simulating flow cavitation around marine propeller, but i don't have idea about the procedure on Fluent. Please can you help me to know procedures of cavitation simulaton using Fluent. Thanks Samir |
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May 29, 2012, 04:50 |
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Rick
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Hi Samir,
you have to use the mixture model (under multiphase tab) and choose 2 material (ex: water liquid and water vapor); then under phase tab-->interaction-->mass you have to enable cavitation. If your propeller rotates I think you have to use rotating frames, but I'm not expert in these simulations..maybe someone else can provide more information. See this tut for cavitation in a nozzle: http://hpce.iitm.ac.in/website/Manua...f/tg/tut18.pdf Daniele |
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May 29, 2012, 08:17 |
Cavitation simulation in Fluent
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samir
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Hi Daniel,
Thank you so much for your message, Just want to tell that i used the tutorial that you have send it to me before, and it doesn't work. For the non cavitating cas, i found good results, but in the cavitating case, i think i have problems and don't know where exactly. Please Daniel, can you send me your email to show you the steps (my case using fluent) Thank you again Samir |
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May 29, 2012, 09:35 |
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Rick
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ok Samir,
check your private messages, I'm sending my email. I will check your case and see if I can be of any help.. Daniele |
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May 29, 2012, 18:44 |
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samir
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Thank you so much Daniele!!
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June 20, 2012, 18:38 |
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navid
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Hi all,
I am modeling the water vapor bubble collapse phenomenon inside water close to a wall. The initial pressure inside bubble is 3000 Pa and the ambient pressure is 1 atm. I assume both phases as compressible and use VOF model. I can see the bubble contraction but after some time, I see very small pressures (around 1 Pa) below the bubble close to solid wall. then After some time I get the "floating point exception" and "AMG solver divergence" errors. I have attached a picture of pressure contours between the bubble boundary and close to wall. The blue parts correspond to small pressures of 1 Pa. Any idea what should I do? Is it reasonable to have such small pressures below the bubble? I use "simple" method and PRESTO! and first order upwind for others. Please help I am really in trouble!! Last edited by ndabir; June 20, 2012 at 19:25. |
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June 20, 2012, 19:22 |
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navid
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any ideas?
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bubbles, cavitation, dynamic meshing, erosion, udf |
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