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Old   November 11, 2010, 16:46
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Hi,

I'm using the DPM to simulate some particles inside an airstream. But the velocity is not correct in my case, so I wanna change it using DEFINE_ADJUST. But I'm getting alway the same error: "error C2106: '=' : left operand must be l-value"

Here you can find a short example of my UDF:

#include "udf.h"

DEFINE_ADJUST(vel_adjust,d)
{
Particle_Variable_ID.PARTICLE_Y_VELOCITY = 0.5
Particle_Variable_ID.PARTICLE_X_VELOCITY = 0
}


What I'm doing wrong??


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Old   November 15, 2010, 17:12
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hi,

no ideas how to solve this problem?? I really need your help in this case.

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Old   November 16, 2010, 10:38
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First of all you have to tell your udf a little bit more about the particles you want to work with.

1. From which injection is it released. You can get a pointer-list of all injections using
Injection *Ilist = Get_dpm_injections();
2. Looping over all Injections *I can be done by
loop(I, Ilist) { }
and looping over all parcels from this injection gives you access to its properties, e.g. P_VEL(p)[i]
loop(p,I->p) { }
BTW, wouldn't it be better to modify your DPM setup, eg. drag law or someting else to get velocities that satisfy your physical understanding than overruling a wrong simulation explicitely by hand?

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Old   November 16, 2010, 13:58
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Hi coglione,

thanks for your advice. I'll try it right now.
I'm using a group injection. The particles are droplet and the simulation is in 2D.
The velocity of the droplets is independent of the surrounding. The droplet are running through a structured packing and its velocity only depends on the mass flow rate. So later on the velocity will be something like this: v_particle = f(m_dot).
But first I have to solve the problem, how to change the velocity.

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Old   November 16, 2010, 17:22
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Hi coglione,

could you or any body else please help me again. I have to solve this problem, but my programming is to weak to do it without your help.
I think the code should look like this, but FLUENT didn't agree with me. Would you please have a look at my code.

#include "udf.h"
#include "dpm.h"

DEFINE_ADJUST(vel_adjust,d)
{

int *Ilist;
int I;

*Ilist = Get_dpm_injections()
loop(I, Ilist)
{
loop(p,I->p)
{
P_VEL(p)[0] = 0
P_VEL(p)[1] = 0.5

}
}

}

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PS.: I'll have to write more UDFs like this for my thesis. Where can I find some manuals especially in writing UDFs for Fluent?
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Old   November 17, 2010, 06:30
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1)Ilist and I are not integers but of a Fluent specific type "Injection" (-> Injection *Ilist;....) and p has to be defined as Particle *p.
2) C-language and semicolons are good friends
3) You should have a FLUENT udf-manuel at hand if the Documentation-package has been installed on your computer. Have a look at chapter 2.5.

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Old   November 17, 2010, 16:53
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Hi coglione,

now I can compile and load the code without any errors, but there is no effect on the particle velocity.
This is the code right now.

#include "udf.h"
#include "dpm.h"

DEFINE_ADJUST(vel_adjust,d)
{

Injection *Ilist;
Injection *I;
Particle *p;

Ilist = Get_dpm_injections();

loop(I,Ilist)
{
loop(p,I->p)
{
P_VEL(p)[0] = 0;
P_VEL(p)[1] = 3;

}
}

}

could you please help me again.
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Old   November 18, 2010, 15:12
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Hi,

I played around with this code to find out why there is no change in the velocity, although I compiled the UDF without any problems. After the calculation was done I run the calculation a 2nd time and the velocity changed. But the UDF just changed the initial velocity.
So I'm having two questions.
1) Why do I have to do the calculation twice to change the velocity? (I just pushed "run calculation" after the 1st calculation was done)
2) How can i change the velocity in the whole setup and not just the initial one?
You can find two screenshoots showing the results attached.

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PS. I used this code.
#include "udf.h"
#include "dpm.h"

DEFINE_ADJUST(vel_adjust,d)
{

Injection *Ilist;
Injection *I;
Particle *p;
int i;

Ilist = Get_dpm_injections();

loop(I,Ilist)
{
loop(p,I->p)
{
P_VEL(p)[1] = -1;

}
}

}
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Old   November 19, 2010, 16:20
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Hi,

no idea why I'm changing just the initial velocity of the particles and not the velocity in the whole domain, anybody ?? I wanna have a constant velocity in the whole domain

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Old   November 21, 2010, 18:11
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hi @all,

I'm about to despair. I'm not able to set a constant independent velocity for all particles within my domain :-(
Is there anybody who can help me??

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Old   November 23, 2010, 04:01
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What DPM tracking scheme are you using? Steady, unsteady, coupled ..?
Remember that DEFINE_ADJUST is called once before each iteration solving the flow field and not each time particles are updated (position, velocity ..).
There are some DPM-specific macros (search for something like DPM_SCALAR_UPDATE or so) which may be more appropriate for your application as they are called any time particle trajectories are recalculated.

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Old   November 30, 2010, 16:26
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hi coglione,

thanks for your help, now it is working. I'll just have to set the acceleration to 0 and it will be fine. Lets see how I can handle this. The code is very simple.

#include "udf.h"
#include "dpm.h" DEFINE_DPM_SCALAR_UPDATE(velocity,c,t,initialize,p )
{
P_VEL(p)[0] = 0;
P_VEL(p)[1] = -0.2;
}

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Hi,friend,I think you work give me a great help . I want to make simulation of cooling tower and try to write a UDF to contorl the velocity of water (use DPM model) in a specific zone, but there are some incorrects in it. When I compile the UDF, the console apperas "uninitialized local variable ‘tp' used" and "uninitialized local variable ‘p' used". Wether the DEFINE_ADJUST Macro can be used in modifying the velocity of DPM? The UDF is below:

#include "udf.h"
#include "dpm.h"
DEFINE_ADJUST(my_adjust,d)
{
//UDF Manual P201
Tracked_Particle *tp;
cell_t c=P_CELL(tp);
Thread *t=P_CELL_THREAD(tp);
Particle *p;
if(P_POS(p)[2]<14.8&&P_POS(p)[2]>=13.4)
begin_particle_cell_loop(p,c,t)
{
P_VEL(p)[2] = -0.2;
}
end_particle_cell_loop(p,c,t)
}

In the next, I'll try to use your method. If I have other questions,erager for your helps!Best wishes.
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