|
[Sponsors] |
April 19, 2017, 08:42 |
Not equal flow mass,open channel
|
#1 |
New Member
W.N.
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 15
Rep Power: 9 |
I'm trying to model a free surface,multi phase (water,air) open channel flow with gate across the channel section. The problem is when calculating flow mass across any channel plane isn't equal to inlet mass flow ,especially the region after the gate given small value of mass flow . I don't know the reason for not equal flow mass.
|
|
April 19, 2017, 11:02 |
|
#2 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,873
Rep Power: 33 |
Have you looked at monitors for transient imbalance in the ANSYS CFX Solver Manager ?
The mass flow across different planes will only be equal to the inlet mass flow once the solution has become stationary; otherwise, you will see the transient imbalance. Has your solution converged to its steady state condition ? |
|
April 19, 2017, 13:53 |
|
#3 |
New Member
W.N.
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 15
Rep Power: 9 |
thanks to you for reply . The solution converged to RMS 0.0001 in 83 iteration. Mass -water imbalance 37.8976٪ , Mass-air imbalance-14.5323% . Then I tried to do more iterations and after1000 iteration more. water imbalance 0.1952%and air imbalance 0.0842% . Is that the the residual imbalance that you mean. Note that, the flow in the region after the gate not steady at all .it is a turbulent flow region. ATTACH]55448[/ATTACH]IMG_1244.JPGIMG_1245.JPG
|
|
April 20, 2017, 13:30 |
Not equal flow mass,open channel
|
#4 | |
New Member
W.N.
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 15
Rep Power: 9 |
Quote:
I don't know how to reach for steady state condition? I want to know in what the difference in mass flow was consumed? As I know the flow discharge doesn't change with the time. |
||
June 10, 2017, 15:00 |
|
#5 |
New Member
W.N.
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 15
Rep Power: 9 |
This is my results after several attempts to achieve stability
Inlet mass flow =~ outlet mass flow, but the planes between them still have different mass flow IMG_1338.JPGIMG_1339.JPGIMG_1340.JPGIMG_1341.JPG Can anyone help me?I will be very grateful to him Thank you in advance |
|
June 11, 2017, 06:53 |
|
#6 |
Super Moderator
Glenn Horrocks
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 17,854
Rep Power: 144 |
The periodic oscillations in the residuals suggests you might have a transient flow condition which you are trying to model with a steady state flow. This is discussed in the FAQ: https://www.cfd-online.com/Wiki/Ansy...gence_criteria
|
|
June 12, 2017, 12:10 |
|
#7 |
Senior Member
|
I agree with Glenn. You should just run a transient simulation to check whether you model is steady state or transient. Do not worry about the Re number shown in output by solver.
|
|
July 12, 2017, 17:08 |
|
#8 |
Senior Member
yaseen
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Hawler
Posts: 174
Rep Power: 11 |
in my view, this does not due to transient effect, flow under sluice gate is steady state, but I think the problem due to in appropriate outlet boundary condition. (strong jump occur)
|
|
July 22, 2017, 16:15 |
|
#9 | |
New Member
W.N.
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 15
Rep Power: 9 |
Quote:
I used pressure as outlet boundary condition and entered water level, which outlet condition that you suggest? |
||
July 23, 2017, 03:25 |
|
#10 | |
Senior Member
yaseen
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Hawler
Posts: 174
Rep Power: 11 |
Quote:
it means the boundary must be far enough from the jump location |
||
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Source term in channel flow | aerosjc | Main CFD Forum | 1 | February 9, 2017 04:38 |
Enabling Open Channel Flow Sub-Model in Mixture model | cod213 | FLUENT | 0 | January 10, 2017 14:40 |
gas flow out of a C-D channel | ljp | FLUENT | 0 | March 7, 2011 15:32 |
Yacht in Open Channel Flow | andreimour | FLUENT | 1 | October 15, 2010 00:54 |
compressible channel flow.. | R.D.Prabhu | Main CFD Forum | 0 | July 17, 1998 18:23 |