thermal conductivity expression

Thomashoffmann · November 20, 2012, 07:03

hi all.
I would like to add an expression for thermal conductivity
k=-0.000837*T^2-0.030641*T+0.147212
But I get the following error:
'
Bad expression value '-0.000837*T[K^2]^2-0.030641*T[K]+0.147212' detected in parameter 'Thermal Conductivity' in object '/LIBRARY/MATERIAL:Ice cream/PROPERTIES/THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY'.
CEL error:
Error at position 12. Units ([K^2]) are associated with a term that is not dimensionless.
'
I also tried to write it like this:
k=-0.000837*T[K^2]^2-0.030641*T[K]+0.147212

Does anybody know how to use the expressions in cfx?

Possa · November 20, 2012, 07:19

Hello Thomas,

You must indicate the units of each constant. So it should be:

k=-0.000837 [W m^-1 K^-3]*T^2-0.030641 [W m^-1 K^-2]*T+0.147212 [W m^-1 K^-1]

This will give you thermal conductivity in [W m^-1 K^-1]

Regards,
Possa

Thomashoffmann · November 20, 2012, 07:27

easy

thanks!

Thomashoffmann · December 6, 2012, 04:34

Hi Possa.
It worked for me to apply the material with this expression for thermal conductivity, but the solver has problem working with it.
I tried to change all the parameters to water one by one, and found out that this expression is the only problem. Do you know if cfx nows that T is temperature? Do I have to define it somewhere?

ghorrocks · December 6, 2012, 05:18

The variables and their names is listed in the CFX reference manual, under variables. You should consult it to make sure you use the correct name for variables.

Possa · December 6, 2012, 06:47

Hello Thomas,

Yes, you're right. You must change T for Temperature for this to work.

Regards,
Possa

Thomashoffmann · December 7, 2012, 08:34

I had a look in the reference manual, and it says that the short variable name for temperature is 'T'. But it doesn't work for me.
Do you know where I have to define T in cfx-pre if I want to make my thermal conductivity temperature dependent?

Possa · December 7, 2012, 08:53

Hi,

Try putting like this in the expression definition tab:

-0.000837 [W m^-1 K^-3]*Temperature^2-0.030641 [W m^-1 K^-2]*Temperature+0.147212 [W m^-1 K^-1]

It is Caps sensible (it will recognize Temperature but not temperature).

It should work like that.

Regards

Thomashoffmann · December 7, 2012, 09:00

Great. This worked for me. Thanks!!

December 6, 2012, 05:18		#5
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November 20, 2012, 07:19		#2
Possa New Member Talita Possamai Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 23 Rep Power: 14	Hello Thomas, You must indicate the units of each constant. So it should be: k=-0.000837 [W m^-1 K^-3]T^2-0.030641 [W m^-1 K^-2]T+0.147212 [W m^-1 K^-1] This will give you thermal conductivity in [W m^-1 K^-1] Regards, Possa

November 20, 2012, 07:27		#3
Thomashoffmann Member Thomas Hoffmann Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 67 Rep Power: 14	easy thanks!

December 6, 2012, 04:34		#4
Thomashoffmann Member Thomas Hoffmann Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 67 Rep Power: 14	Hi Possa. It worked for me to apply the material with this expression for thermal conductivity, but the solver has problem working with it. I tried to change all the parameters to water one by one, and found out that this expression is the only problem. Do you know if cfx nows that T is temperature? Do I have to define it somewhere?

December 6, 2012, 06:47		#6
Possa New Member Talita Possamai Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 23 Rep Power: 14	Hello Thomas, Yes, you're right. You must change T for Temperature for this to work. Regards, Possa

December 7, 2012, 08:34		#7
Thomashoffmann Member Thomas Hoffmann Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 67 Rep Power: 14	I had a look in the reference manual, and it says that the short variable name for temperature is 'T'. But it doesn't work for me. Do you know where I have to define T in cfx-pre if I want to make my thermal conductivity temperature dependent?

December 7, 2012, 08:53		#8
Possa New Member Talita Possamai Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 23 Rep Power: 14	Hi, Try putting like this in the expression definition tab: -0.000837 [W m^-1 K^-3]Temperature^2-0.030641 [W m^-1 K^-2]Temperature+0.147212 [W m^-1 K^-1] It is Caps sensible (it will recognize Temperature but not temperature). It should work like that. Regards

December 7, 2012, 09:00		#9
Thomashoffmann Member Thomas Hoffmann Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 67 Rep Power: 14	Great. This worked for me. Thanks!!