CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Software User Forums > ANSYS

Problem regarding producing streamlines from surfaces in Ansys CFD post

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Like Tree1Likes
  • 1 Post By ghost82

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   April 23, 2015, 17:14
Default Problem regarding producing streamlines from surfaces in Ansys CFD post
  #1
New Member
 
gautham narayan
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 16
Rep Power: 11
gauthamnarayan is on a distinguished road
I am facing a very unusual problem with the Ansys CFD post tool. I am unable to produce streamlines starting from a wing surface in the cfd post processing tool. The software attempts to calculate the streamline but simply does not produce a 3D streamline from the surface.

My guess is that there is an error in the selection of surfaces. But i have followed the same Cfd procedures on certain other geometries and it has worked for me previously. I have attached a two pictures of an experiment that has worked for me previously and the uav that I am trying to analyse for the trailing vortices generated.

It would be really great if someone can highlight my mistake in post processing. i have tried googling and asking around at a few other places and could not resolve the problem.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Screenshot (81).jpg (52.9 KB, 477 views)
File Type: jpg Screenshot (42).jpg (41.8 KB, 351 views)
gauthamnarayan is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   April 24, 2015, 16:35
Default
  #2
Senior Member
 
ghost82's Avatar
 
Rick
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,016
Rep Power: 27
ghost82 will become famous soon enough
Hi,
If you set a no slip boundary conditiom for that wall it's ok that there are no stremlines from that surface, as the velocity is zero. So, generate stremlines close to that wall, not on the wall.
In the first picture streamlines are not generated on the wing.
gauthamnarayan likes this.
__________________
Google is your friend and the same for the search button!
ghost82 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   April 24, 2015, 19:00
Default
  #3
New Member
 
gautham narayan
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 16
Rep Power: 11
gauthamnarayan is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by ghost82 View Post
Hi,
If you set a no slip boundary conditiom for that wall it's ok that there are no stremlines from that surface, as the velocity is zero. So, generate stremlines close to that wall, not on the wall.
In the first picture streamlines are not generated on the wing.
Hi ghost82,

Thanks for taking the time to respond to my question.

I agree that due to the no slip condition velocity streamlines cannot be released from the surface of the wing. In the case of the front wing of the racecar, I had selected the surface of the front wing, selected a forward and backward condition and ansys automatically generated the streamline for me, of course here also the walls were under the no-slip condition.

Please can you explain, what could be the possible difference in both the cases that causes the software not to release streamlines near and around the surface.

I have also attached a another photo of an Ahmed body and a car where I had got the streamlines by simply selecting the surface, which I am unable to do so in the case of the aircraft. What could be the possible reason for this. How do I generate streamlines close to the airplane wing tips so that i can visualise the developing tip vortex.

thanks,
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Screenshot (50).jpg (52.5 KB, 229 views)
File Type: jpg Screenshot (100).jpg (49.4 KB, 175 views)
gauthamnarayan is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   April 25, 2015, 05:52
Default
  #4
Senior Member
 
ghost82's Avatar
 
Rick
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,016
Rep Power: 27
ghost82 will become famous soon enough
I suggest to plot contours of that surfaces to look at the velocities (absolutes): then maybe you can understand why streamlines do not propagate in your domain.
Maybe for ahme body and wing you set moving walls with the no slip condition?
What are the boundary conditions for the airplain case?

In the case of the airplain, create a xy plane in front of the wing, then if you want you can clip that surface to limit its height/width: then, release streamlines from this new surface.
__________________
Google is your friend and the same for the search button!
ghost82 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   April 26, 2015, 00:21
Default
  #5
New Member
 
gautham narayan
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 16
Rep Power: 11
gauthamnarayan is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by ghost82 View Post
I suggest to plot contours of that surfaces to look at the velocities (absolutes): then maybe you can understand why streamlines do not propagate in your domain.
Maybe for ahme body and wing you set moving walls with the no slip condition?
What are the boundary conditions for the airplain case?

In the case of the airplain, create a xy plane in front of the wing, then if you want you can clip that surface to limit its height/width: then, release streamlines from this new surface.
I have tried your method. it worked.

just one more thing, i am able to limit the plane size easily through x and y dimensions, but how can I position the plane at my tips, i want to visualise only the tip vortices, i need to centre the plane on the x-y axes.
gauthamnarayan is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   April 26, 2015, 11:06
Default
  #6
Senior Member
 
ghost82's Avatar
 
Rick
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,016
Rep Power: 27
ghost82 will become famous soon enough
Just create a small square/reactangle in front of each tip.

1- create a xy plane (location-->plane)
2- create isoclip (location-->isoclip)

In isoclip, choose the new plane and add visibility parameters (variable X --> x>=, x<=, variable Y --> y>=, y<=)
__________________
Google is your friend and the same for the search button!
ghost82 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   June 8, 2015, 08:33
Default
  #7
New Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 7
Rep Power: 12
Idiom_1 is on a distinguished road
Hello,

i got usually problem with streamlines.
Idk why it appears because i saw so plenty tutorials and noone got problem with streamlines like me. I just say what i mean:
i got closed zone object (as a fluid) with one input and one output, so between is space with water. I throw velocity on input and i would like to see flow of water by streamlines and here is the problem. Streamlines are so short, it just leave from inputp and just cut, wont show how fluid flows in output direction. Idk why, because when i see results by vectors in fluent solution, i can see there 'stream' of fluid by the other colour of points.
I relaise my problem is not so clear for sure and is possibility of many solutions, but well... i try maybe someone got any idea how can i make streamlines just from input to output, even if velocity flow between is close to 0.

Greetings

Last edited by Idiom_1; June 8, 2015 at 10:41.
Idiom_1 is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply

Tags
flow visualisation, streamlines


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Force Function Calculator Ansys CFD Post sharadram1989 CFX 22 October 30, 2019 05:07
CFD Post Streamlines better representation? Dr. Flow Squad CFX 2 January 20, 2014 14:48
[Other] Ansys Meshing vs Ansys ICEM CFD JuPa ANSYS Meshing & Geometry 5 September 19, 2012 10:48
Difference between ANSYS CFD & CFD solamy ANSYS 3 October 21, 2010 17:06
Ansys workbench problem Jonny6001 ANSYS 2 September 30, 2010 13:59


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 14:06.