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Old   March 26, 2013, 05:38
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Hi, i'm a beginner in ICEM and have a little problem in meshing. maybe this is a stupid question but I couldn't find any threads covering this issue, If there is any, please suggest it
Well I have this complex geometry that I have meshed in both Gambit and ICEM but with different mesh results.
Here are the images:
This one is a round step-shaped geometry which is meshed fine in Gambit but not in ICEM:

Gambit:



ICEM:



Similary, here are the images of a meshed pillar-shaped geometry, Both meshed using GAMBIT and ICEM:

GAMBIT:



ICEM:




As you can see there are lots of differences between these two meshes.I am unable to get that fine mesh using ICEM.

I tried these:
1) importing Gambit mesh into ICEM and tried to understand how can I do these steps to mesh my geometry:
---a) delete volume mesh
---b) keeping face meshes
---c) do my preferred edits
---d) volume mesh it

Tried a lot, but No Idea how to do these steps! in other words I don't know how to continue meshing a pre-meshed GAMBIT file in ICEM (is it even possible?)

2) I even tried to use Quad dominant mesh type, But as I read some forum posts, I figured out that it is not suitable for CFD cases.

Any help is appreciated,
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You want mesh in gambit or ICEM?
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I want it in ICEM.
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Hi Ali,
Well that's not the problem. even by reducing mesh size I still can't get a mesh volume like GAMBIT. the other problem is that reducing size too much causes huge number of cells, which I'm trying to avoid.
I wonder if there are any particular meshing procedures in ICEM which i'm not aware of.

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Hello.

Why you are interesting tetra mesh rather than hexa? Use the block strategy to generate hexa mesh. It will generate precise mesh with less elements compare to tetra.
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Why you are interesting tetra mesh rather than hexa? Use the block strategy to generate hexa mesh. It will generate precise mesh with less elements compare to tetra.
Hi Astio,
I will try that. but right now I have no idea what blocking is! maybe I need some study.

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Try some tutorials. you can find ICEM manual in the internet. Also take a look on this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h97FvWJPcY

If still you have a problem, share your geometry, I will help you.
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Try some tutorials. you can find ICEM manual in the internet. Also take a look on this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h97FvWJPcY

If still you have a problem, share your geometry, I will help you.
Thank you Astio.
those tutorials helped a lot.
I wil try meshing my geometry again to see what happens.

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