CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Software User Forums > ANSYS > ANSYS Meshing & Geometry

[ANSYS Meshing] How to find the correct defeaturing tolerance?

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Like Tree1Likes
  • 1 Post By Archer_CFD

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   October 2, 2012, 11:37
Default How to find the correct defeaturing tolerance?
  #1
New Member
 
Nathan
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 3
Rep Power: 14
koskey is on a distinguished road
Hello!

I have been trying to create a mesh for an airfoil in workbench, and it seems that once I change the airfoil geometry from the tutorial one I get the following warning.

"The default defeaturing tolerance was larger than one computed based on size controls. The mesher has modified the global defeaturing tolerance accordingly."

And makes one quadrant of the mesh a bit weird like so.. Bad Mesh, Bad.jpg

Does anyone know how I can make it match the rest of the mesh? I'm assuming it's a easy question but i just don't know where else to find the answer..

Thanks guys,
Koskey
koskey is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   October 28, 2012, 21:43
Default
  #2
New Member
 
Jonathan
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 12
Rep Power: 14
Archer_CFD is on a distinguished road
Hi,

Did you eventually find a solution?

I am having exactly the same problem.

Cheers.
Archer_CFD is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   October 28, 2012, 22:38
Default
  #3
New Member
 
Nathan
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 3
Rep Power: 14
koskey is on a distinguished road
No I didn't figure it out. I ended up changing the project up a bit because of it, but would love to know how to make it work still
koskey is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   October 31, 2012, 21:17
Default
  #4
New Member
 
Jonathan
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 12
Rep Power: 14
Archer_CFD is on a distinguished road
I managed to contact a researcher at my university who works with Ansys regularly and he was able to help me out.

I assume that, like me, you used the airfoil tutorial at this website?
https://confluence.cornell.edu/displ...+Specification

When I substituted in a NACA4415 instead of the NACA0012 used here I had the same mesh problem as you except mine was in the top left quadrant. In this case, what worked for me was adding an extra edge sizing to the top surface of the airfoil with the same number of divisions as the inlet curve in that quadrant.

The problem also occured with heavily undercambered airfoils. The meshing method from the above tutorial couldn't handle the underside curve. The solution was to add an extra partition to the C-grid so that it could handle the curve as shown in the figure below.

Xfoil2.jpg

As for your exact problem. The only time either of my right hand side quadrants failed to mesh properly was when the plane used to draw the C-grid (plane 4 in the tutorial) was not exactly over the trailing edge of the airfoil. When it happened to me, my trailing edge protruded into the upper-right quadrant by 1/1000th of a millimetre, causing the upper-right quadrant to fail in the same way as yours.

As far as I can tell. The meshing failures that we're seeing have nothing to do with the defeaturing tolerance. It's just that ICEM CFD is not smart enough to generate the mesh without further help. The researcher who helped me opened my files in a later version of Ansys (v14) and they worked for him straight away and we could only solve my problems by opening them in Ansys 13.

I hope that any of this was useful to you.
Cfdjunior likes this.
Archer_CFD is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply

Tags
airfoil mesh, ansys fluent 13, defeaturing tolerance, meshing, workbench 13


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
OpenFoam171: error /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -llduSolvers Schipper OpenFOAM Programming & Development 9 August 26, 2020 06:31
OpenFOAM 1.6-ext git installation on Ubuntu 11.10 x64 Attesz OpenFOAM Installation 45 January 13, 2012 13:38
Problem Building OF on Centos cluster (no admin rights) CKH OpenFOAM Installation 5 November 13, 2011 07:32
Ways to find Mass transfer coefficient using CFD? tuks_123 CFX 10 April 15, 2011 12:20
Please help a newbie find the drag on a 3d model David Amer Main CFD Forum 1 March 6, 2002 04:33


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:52.