Lift and Drag ???

Yogibear · June 15, 2010, 14:58

Hi Everyone

Im trying to make star ccm+ output the lift and drag from a NACA 0012 wing between 0 - 18 degrees. Im strugling with it a bit ive had it all working with pressures but need drag and lift.

Ive been through the help and tutorial section but dont seam to be able to get the right settings to even select lift and drag.

The physics Ive been using are as following
K-Epsilon Turbulence
Turbulent
Constant Density
Steady
Segragated Flow
Gas
Stationary
Three Dimensinal

Please Bear with me as im basically teaching myself how to use the software for uni.
Thanks

f-w · June 15, 2010, 20:08

You need to search the help file for REPORTS. If you want absolute forces, there's a "Force" report. If you want coefficients, there's a "Force coefficient" report.

Whichever report you go with, be careful with the "direction" specification, and all the reference values.

BrenS · June 17, 2010, 17:24

I recently completed a similar analysis and found a great tutorial in STAR-CCM+ that clearly explained the proper procedure. To access the tutorial I went to Help->Help (F1)->Search and then typed in "airfoil tutorial." The tutorial is called "Transonic Flow over an Airfoil" and outlines a step-by-step procedure for solving, reporting, and visualizing the flow solution over an airfoil. It also explains how to convert the imported mesh into 2D which is a significant time saver for this sort of analysis. Good luck!

Yogibear · June 17, 2010, 18:01

Hay
Thanks for the replies folks. I did find that tutorilal as well and have been having a look at it. However my wing is in 3d and for the project im ment to be keeping it in 3d. Think ive got the processing power to do it in 3d just not sure how to. It seams far to complicated for some reason.

arunjingade · June 20, 2010, 11:11

hiya,

I think you should use "coupled flow" not "segregated flow". it doesnt make much difference because coupled flow is used for high speed application (if I am not wrong) but coupled flow is more accurate.

Cheers,

Arun

GeorgeH25 · November 2, 2023, 18:14

Hi all,

Does anyone know why I keep getting this issue??

I am setting the coordinates up as I have done for previous simulations in the past but for some reason I keep getting this issue and I don't know how to move past it.

I even created a brand new simulation and I am still getting the same fault in something.

Thank

June 15, 2010, 14:58	Lift and Drag ???	#1
Yogibear New Member Niall Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 16	Hi Everyone Im trying to make star ccm+ output the lift and drag from a NACA 0012 wing between 0 - 18 degrees. Im strugling with it a bit ive had it all working with pressures but need drag and lift. Ive been through the help and tutorial section but dont seam to be able to get the right settings to even select lift and drag. The physics Ive been using are as following K-Epsilon Turbulence Turbulent Constant Density Steady Segragated Flow Gas Stationary Three Dimensinal Please Bear with me as im basically teaching myself how to use the software for uni. Thanks

June 20, 2010, 11:11	physics model	#5
arunjingade New Member Arun Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 16	hiya, I think you should use "coupled flow" not "segregated flow". it doesnt make much difference because coupled flow is used for high speed application (if I am not wrong) but coupled flow is more accurate. Cheers, Arun

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June 15, 2010, 20:08		#2
f-w Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 159 Rep Power: 17	You need to search the help file for REPORTS. If you want absolute forces, there's a "Force" report. If you want coefficients, there's a "Force coefficient" report. Whichever report you go with, be careful with the "direction" specification, and all the reference values.

June 17, 2010, 17:24		#3
BrenS New Member Brendan Smoker Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 16	I recently completed a similar analysis and found a great tutorial in STAR-CCM+ that clearly explained the proper procedure. To access the tutorial I went to Help->Help (F1)->Search and then typed in "airfoil tutorial." The tutorial is called "Transonic Flow over an Airfoil" and outlines a step-by-step procedure for solving, reporting, and visualizing the flow solution over an airfoil. It also explains how to convert the imported mesh into 2D which is a significant time saver for this sort of analysis. Good luck!

June 17, 2010, 18:01		#4
Yogibear New Member Niall Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 16	Hay Thanks for the replies folks. I did find that tutorilal as well and have been having a look at it. However my wing is in 3d and for the project im ment to be keeping it in 3d. Think ive got the processing power to do it in 3d just not sure how to. It seams far to complicated for some reason.