CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Software User Forums > Siemens > STAR-CCM+

Convergence Problem for Multiphase flow

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   September 6, 2018, 08:09
Exclamation Convergence Problem for Multiphase flow
  #1
New Member
 
Naveen
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 2
Rep Power: 0
Naveen Cheruku is on a distinguished road
Hello,

I am doing Detailed Simulation of Fuel cell with almost 70 million cells.
The model worked for single phase flow and i got good convergence and results.

But when I change the model to Multi-phase, even the Flow solver is diverging with the same initial conditions as in single phase case and with the results (Pressure and velocity) of single phase as initial conditions for the multi-phase case.

I am playing around with the damping factors, convection methods (1st and 2nd order) but there is no use.

Flow conditions:
steady,Turbulent with k-epsilon, Eulerian multiphase

Output window is showing as some warnings as follows:
Pressure corrections limited on ------
Turbulent viscosity limited on -------
reversed flow

Can someone help me on this.

Thanks and regards,
Naveen
Naveen Cheruku is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   September 10, 2018, 03:43
Question
  #2
Senior Member
 
ashokac7's Avatar
 
Ashok Chaudhari
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Pune, India
Posts: 260
Rep Power: 11
ashokac7 is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Skype™ to ashokac7
Quote:
Originally Posted by Naveen Cheruku View Post
Hello,

I am doing Detailed Simulation of Fuel cell with almost 70 million cells.
The model worked for single phase flow and i got good convergence and results.

But when I change the model to Multi-phase, even the Flow solver is diverging with the same initial conditions as in single phase case and with the results (Pressure and velocity) of single phase as initial conditions for the multi-phase case.

I am playing around with the damping factors, convection methods (1st and 2nd order) but there is no use.

Flow conditions:
steady,Turbulent with k-epsilon, Eulerian multiphase

Output window is showing as some warnings as follows:
Pressure corrections limited on ------
Turbulent viscosity limited on -------
reversed flow

Can someone help me on this.

Thanks and regards,
Naveen
Considering that you have thoroughly checked meshing and physics applied. Like phase interaction properties and multi phase characteristics. If the problem is because of higher pressure gradient then what you can do is reduce the pressure at outlet (near to atmospheric) at first and then start increasing it step by step.

And give more info on the issue like set up properties, BC's, residuals, and whole error message etc for better comment.
ashokac7 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   November 15, 2023, 03:53
Default Were you able to solve the issue
  #3
New Member
 
Vidya Muthulakshmi M
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 7
Rep Power: 6
Vidzz22 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Naveen Cheruku View Post
Hello,

I am doing Detailed Simulation of Fuel cell with almost 70 million cells.
The model worked for single phase flow and i got good convergence and results.

But when I change the model to Multi-phase, even the Flow solver is diverging with the same initial conditions as in single phase case and with the results (Pressure and velocity) of single phase as initial conditions for the multi-phase case.

I am playing around with the damping factors, convection methods (1st and 2nd order) but there is no use.

Flow conditions:
steady,Turbulent with k-epsilon, Eulerian multiphase

Output window is showing as some warnings as follows:
Pressure corrections limited on ------
Turbulent viscosity limited on -------
reversed flow

Can someone help me on this.

Thanks and regards,
Naveen
Facing the same kind of issue. I am working on a multiphase mixing tank simulation with turbulence. I have got a converged simulation for a single phase (water) mixed with an impeller. Now I am trying to use the results to initialise a multiphase simulation. In the multiphase setup, additionally air is introduced through a porous sparger (modeled as a surface with an effective diameter of bubbles coming out). Drag and surface tension forces are considered significant. But when the simulation runs the multiphase case it diverges.

Can someone help me out with possible reasons for the same? I can give more details as required.



PS: Mesh is unstructured and mesh quality, orthogonality and aspect ratio is well within limits
Vidzz22 is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Wing in compressible flow convergence problem frossi FLUENT 9 February 27, 2017 01:20
Cavity Flow Model Convergence Problem benderbending CFX 2 February 20, 2017 05:43
Two Mass flow inlet bc convergence problem nabidinhomessi Main CFD Forum 5 December 14, 2015 08:11
problem reaching convergence for 2D Aerofoil Turbulent FLow raz FLUENT 0 December 1, 2015 07:06
Problem with Convergence at high flow rates Syed Siemens 1 April 10, 2007 16:18


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 00:19.