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May 20, 2014, 00:34 |
Simulation of Blood Flow
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Sathwik Singari
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Hello,
I am doing my thesis on "simulation Analysis Model for Non-Newtonian Blood Flow through Femoral Artery and Adjacent Tissue Medium" I have modeled the artery using solid works then i have added tissue around the artery.In order blood to flow from artery to tissue i need to consider artery as permeable and tissue as porous medium. I do not know how to choose the Physics condition for this model. Please some one help me in solving this issue. |
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May 20, 2014, 06:47 |
porous region
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Hi
assign the volume you want to be porous to a separate fluid region. in the properties window -> type select the drop down menu and change from fluid region to porous region |
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May 20, 2014, 09:27 |
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What are the physics values i need to use for artery to make it permeable
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May 20, 2014, 09:32 |
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I tried using multiphase flow but i did not get permeable option.
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May 20, 2014, 11:13 |
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Why does the tissue to artery interface need to be permeable? If you just make it an in-place interface, that should allow fluid to move from one place to another. The backpressure from the tissue would keep all of the blood from leaving the artery, no?
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May 20, 2014, 13:06 |
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Because artery should allow blood to pass to tissue.Do you want me to attach the file i have done till now?
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May 20, 2014, 13:33 |
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I have attached the screen shots of physics conditions that i have used for my model.
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May 20, 2014, 16:18 |
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Ah, if you're using VOF things are a little different.
You need to use the wall porosity model, and make the wall porous for one phase and resist another. |
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May 20, 2014, 17:04 |
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Sorry , I didnot get what you are saying ?where do i need ro use wall porosity?
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May 20, 2014, 17:12 |
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That VOF function did not work. What physics do i need to use in order to get inplace as phase permeable.
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May 20, 2014, 17:45 |
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In intersection folder-->inplace when am selecting inplace i am getting baffel interface instead of phase permeable
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May 20, 2014, 18:25 |
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The function you're looking for is in the wall porosity model if you're using VOF. Turn it on for your phases and then turn your interface to a baffle. It will have phase condition options.
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May 20, 2014, 18:31 |
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I didnot get the option called phase condition in interface i have only inplace with physics conditions.
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May 20, 2014, 21:07 |
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Because you have an in-place interface. As I stated earlier, you need to use a baffle interface.
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May 21, 2014, 09:20 |
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Thankyou I think this will help me.
One more question did you go through the word file i have attached in my previous msgs? I donot even know wether am using correct physcs or not because i am not sure wether i should create phases or not for tissue medium which is porous.I had choosen physcs conditions ramdomly 😔.for artery do i need to create two phase or one phase ? Thankyou. |
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May 21, 2014, 10:07 |
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I did the same but the flow is not directed to tissue from artery |
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May 21, 2014, 10:12 |
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please see the attached file.See there is no flow directed to tissue from artery . even after making the inplace interface to baffle interface.
Last edited by sathwik718; May 21, 2014 at 10:27. Reason: i forgot to attach a file |
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May 21, 2014, 10:38 |
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Did you set the phase conditions on the interface? A baffle interface with the default settings is just a wall.
You should not be choosing physics randomly. If you want a simulation that has usable results, you need to put thought into what and how you're simulating. As the old CAE saying goes - "garbage in, garbage out". Using a porous media as the second domain sounds fine to me, I've seen it done before with injection simulations. |
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May 21, 2014, 10:50 |
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I tried using many physics conditions. I tried using VOF model and non VOF but there isn't any result.I donot know exactly what kind of physics i need to use to make it permeable.Yes i did phase condition for interface .
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May 21, 2014, 11:16 |
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If you set the phase conditions on each side of the interface to be porous, the phase should move through the interface.
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