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May 15, 2014, 08:50 |
Parts Based Meshing
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Hey,
I have a pump which I want to mesh. The pump consists of some inner bodies and a Rotor inside the outer body. My idea was to work with parts-based meshing. I got that STEP-file as one part. So firstly I used surface repair to remove free edges from the geometry. After that I generated via "split by patch" in the Regions tree several surfaces from my geometry and exported that surfaces as one part to the Geometry<Parts node. Afterwards I created from that surfaces new parts in the Geometry>Parts Node. The problem that I face now are new gaps (free edges) exacatly between my new defined parts. Do you know why they appear and how I can fix them? Surface repair doesnt lead to a solution. Thank you. Last edited by skapetan; May 16, 2014 at 04:31. |
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May 15, 2014, 09:41 |
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The picture shows the result after generating a Surface Mesh. Problem zone : Gap between Stator and main body.
Btw I'm new in Starccm + and not really sure about the procedure in working with parts-bashed meshing. I think that my procedure is wrong or one ore more steps are missing. Lets say I have 3 different parts which represent one geometry and I want to generate at each part a different mesh. So how would the general workflow be? To my knowledge this are the steps for generating different meshes on parts: 1. combine the parts to a Composite 2. create weak in-place contact between parts for achieving a conformal mesh between parts. 3. generate surface Mesh : Geometry<Operations<Automated Mesh select Surface Remesher and just select one specific part to generate mesh . In that fact generate another Automated Mesh node to create another mesh for a specific part. 4.Assign parts to one region. 5. Generate Surface Mesh. Please tell me if I'm wrong. Thank you. |
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May 15, 2014, 21:58 |
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No, I don't think you're using PBM correctly.
To STAR-CCM+, a "part" should represent either a solid or fluid volume. It looks to me that you've taken different surfaces and are using them as parts. Combine your separate surfaces into one part. Now you say there's a stator, so I'm assuming something is rotating. If that's the case, you need to create a rotating part, and a non-rotating part. Use some of the general parts available in the parts tree to create a cylinder and subtract that from your original part to get a rotating domain. |
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May 16, 2014, 07:54 |
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Thank you for your reply. You a right there is an Impeller which is rotating.
I want to point out the my Geometry was imported as a STEP-File. However my current state is that the surfaces (Impeller,Stator,Main body, Inlet,Outlet) are combined in one part now. Also free edges disappeared. Do I really need a subtract of a Cylinder and my Part? That case is used to create an exterior domain right? I think I should set up a rotating domain with subtracting a cylinder and impeller. which will fit in the main body of the pump. |
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May 16, 2014, 12:40 |
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Correct, you need to subtract the cylinder from your part to create a rotating domain.
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May 21, 2014, 09:59 |
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Hey thank you. I face a lot of problems in setting up rotation. Do you know any Tutorial which could help me to understand how to set up rotation (rotation domains etc.) ?
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May 21, 2014, 10:41 |
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There's an entire set of tutorials on motion available in the user guide.
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May 26, 2014, 03:44 |
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Thanks., Have already worked with them.
The part which I m not really sure about is how to set up my rotating domain. Should it be for example a cylinder where exactly the volume of the Impeller (rotating part) is subtracted. It seems like that in the tutorial it is just a cylindrical concave boundary around the rotating part. Here some examples of rotating domains which seem to be defined with just a cylindrical concave boundary around the rotating part. |
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May 26, 2014, 23:27 |
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You can do it either way. Which one you choose depends on how you want to treat the shroud, if any.
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January 12, 2022, 14:04 |
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What is part based meshing? How should it be applied to the model?
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January 12, 2022, 15:55 |
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Region-based meshing has been deprecated in newer versions of Star. It is retained only for reverse compatibility. Basically, only parts-based meshing is now relevant.
In the Star-CCM tree, there are parts which are mapped to regions. It used to be that you could generate a computational grid on the parts or the regions. On parts, it was parts-based meshing. On regions, it was region-based meshing. For the most part, they were identical. There were a few low-level meshing features that were allowed for the region-based mesher and not the parts-based mesher. These features are deprecated with the move towards parts-based meshing. |
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