problem creating sketch

yorelchr · April 15, 2014, 05:25

Hello everyone,

my question will probably be the most stupid on this forum, but no way, I can't get out of this "problem" : I am just trying to draw a sketch, a rectangle!!! I've tried in 3 possible ways...but I always have the same message:

PHP Code:


			
Warning

Execution failed

Sketch 1 : point creation failed

Point is out of valid boundary, it must be within an origin centered box whose size is 1000 by 1000 by 1000 meters. 

Please check the input sketch.

Isn't it possible to draw a rectangle at a defined place?

thank you for any help

PS: I did the Tutorial for building geometry...had no problem..

me3840 · April 15, 2014, 13:53

I guess there's some kind of limit as to how big you can make the box. Do you need a 1000m^3 box?

yorelchr · April 16, 2014, 06:10

no I need to do something smaller but I always get this message. Do we have to center the sketch? from the tutorial it doesn't seem so.

me3840 · April 16, 2014, 11:45

I guess the question is if you don't need something smaller, why are you generating geometry so far from the origin?

yorelchr · April 17, 2014, 11:33

no, I'm just trying to do a rectangle from the origin, 10X100, and I get this message. I really don't get what's wrong...seems so easy!

azt · April 18, 2014, 08:36

Hi

The domain is probably limited to -500m, 500m in all directions. it's a 'feature' in star.

put a suggestion on ideas storm if you think it's worth it!

:-)

me3840 · April 18, 2014, 16:54

Are you drawing just a rectangle and then dimensioning it, or are you trying to draw a 10x100m rectangle from the get-go? Keep in mind the default grid spacing for sketches is not 1m.

yorelchr · April 23, 2014, 04:18

yes, I just draw a rectangle and redimension it; I also changed the spacing...I don't know. I've found a previous file with a geometry based on a rectangle, I've put away all I didn't need and kept the rectangle, redimensioned it and it worked...really, I don't understand what was wrong in my way of proceeding..

marcolovatto · April 23, 2014, 17:05

Christine, I'm having the same problem. Here are my steps:

Version 9.02.005

Geometry > 3D-CAD Models > New
3D-CAD Model 1 > Import > 3D Curve > [.csv file loaded] > Import as 3D polyline + Closed curve

Points are imported and curves created and shown successfully. It's a "big" 2D geometry, used for atmospheric boundary layer calculation, a 5000m x 800m rectangle.

3DCurve1 > Create extrude > 50m

Error 1:

Feature execution failed.
Extrude 1 : Curve not found in curvePrimIdMap
Command: ExecuteFeature
error: Server Error

Smaller extrude values do not avoid the problem.
Then I try to delete the unsuccessful extrude and I get your error:

Error 2:

Execution failed.
3DCurve 1 : Point creation failed.
Point is out of valid boundary, It must be within an origin
centered box whose size is 1000 by 1000 by 1000 meters.
Please check the input sketch.
Command: DeleteFeatures
error: Server Error

Then I try to repeat the process with a smaller geometry, a 5m x 8m rectangle. I still get Error 1, but not Error 2.

Any help?

yorelchr · April 24, 2014, 04:25

Hi Marco,

Maybe curves are recognized but STARCCM+ then can't "work" on them as they are.
Have you tried to import the curves in another way than "3D polyline + Closed curve" if other options exist (I have no *.csv file so I can't see what choices are available).

marcolovatto · April 25, 2014, 14:14

Actually the import is successful on version 9, the extrude command isn't (neither with huge geometries nor smaller than 1000m).

The only way I found to get rid of this problem was by importing the .csv file with coordinates reduced by a factor of 0.001 on version 8, creating the extrude, saving, opening on version 9, creating the part, then re-scaling the geometry by a factor of 1000.

marcolovatto · April 25, 2014, 14:19

Considering the need of working on sketches smaller than 1000m, CD-ADAPCO's support told me this a limitation of Parasolid's kernel, which is the base of 3D-CAD.

lava12005 · June 24, 2014, 04:30

Been having the same issue here, I create a simple csv file to automate my geometry creation (kind of)
When trying to loft/extrude the 3d-curve then the error appears.
I used to do it in the previous version (v7/v8), so is this a bug?
Anyone has the same issue or any solution?

hamed1983 · September 4, 2019, 13:57

I am a kind of new to startCCM and I am going to model a geometry which I have taken data from MATLAB regarding the points and lines. However, when I get through imprinting to make a sheet over lines, I came across an error said" Open wireframe. Please check the input sketch". It would be really appreciated if someone let me know how to manage this issue. The relevant photo is attached.

lava12005 · September 11, 2019, 22:32

Hmm my first thought will be that there really is an open wireframe in your model.

April 15, 2014, 05:25	problem creating sketch	#1
yorelchr Senior Member christine Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: europe Posts: 125 Rep Power: 17	Hello everyone, my question will probably be the most stupid on this forum, but no way, I can't get out of this "problem" : I am just trying to draw a sketch, a rectangle!!! I've tried in 3 possible ways...but I always have the same message: PHP Code: `Warning Execution failed Sketch 1 : point creation failed Point is out of valid boundary, it must be within an origin centered box whose size is 1000 by 1000 by 1000 meters. Please check the input sketch.` Isn't it possible to draw a rectangle at a defined place? thank you for any help PS: I did the Tutorial for building geometry...had no problem..

April 18, 2014, 08:36	sketching	#6
azt Member allan thomson Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: scotland Posts: 45 Rep Power: 17	Hi The domain is probably limited to -500m, 500m in all directions. it's a 'feature' in star. put a suggestion on ideas storm if you think it's worth it! :-)

April 23, 2014, 17:05	Curve not found in curvePrimIdMap	#9
marcolovatto New Member Marco Leonardelli Lovatto Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 15	Christine, I'm having the same problem. Here are my steps: Version 9.02.005 Geometry > 3D-CAD Models > New 3D-CAD Model 1 > Import > 3D Curve > [.csv file loaded] > Import as 3D polyline + Closed curve Points are imported and curves created and shown successfully. It's a "big" 2D geometry, used for atmospheric boundary layer calculation, a 5000m x 800m rectangle. 3DCurve1 > Create extrude > 50m Error 1: Feature execution failed. Extrude 1 : Curve not found in curvePrimIdMap Command: ExecuteFeature error: Server Error Smaller extrude values do not avoid the problem. Then I try to delete the unsuccessful extrude and I get your error: Error 2: Execution failed. 3DCurve 1 : Point creation failed. Point is out of valid boundary, It must be within an origin centered box whose size is 1000 by 1000 by 1000 meters. Please check the input sketch. Command: DeleteFeatures error: Server Error Then I try to repeat the process with a smaller geometry, a 5m x 8m rectangle. I still get Error 1, but not Error 2. Any help?

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April 15, 2014, 13:53		#2
me3840 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,232 Rep Power: 25	I guess there's some kind of limit as to how big you can make the box. Do you need a 1000m^3 box?

April 16, 2014, 06:10		#3
yorelchr Senior Member christine Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: europe Posts: 125 Rep Power: 17	no I need to do something smaller but I always get this message. Do we have to center the sketch? from the tutorial it doesn't seem so.

April 16, 2014, 11:45		#4
me3840 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,232 Rep Power: 25	I guess the question is if you don't need something smaller, why are you generating geometry so far from the origin?

April 17, 2014, 11:33		#5
yorelchr Senior Member christine Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: europe Posts: 125 Rep Power: 17	no, I'm just trying to do a rectangle from the origin, 10X100, and I get this message. I really don't get what's wrong...seems so easy!

April 18, 2014, 16:54		#7
me3840 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,232 Rep Power: 25	Are you drawing just a rectangle and then dimensioning it, or are you trying to draw a 10x100m rectangle from the get-go? Keep in mind the default grid spacing for sketches is not 1m.

April 23, 2014, 04:18		#8
yorelchr Senior Member christine Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: europe Posts: 125 Rep Power: 17	yes, I just draw a rectangle and redimension it; I also changed the spacing...I don't know. I've found a previous file with a geometry based on a rectangle, I've put away all I didn't need and kept the rectangle, redimensioned it and it worked...really, I don't understand what was wrong in my way of proceeding..

April 24, 2014, 04:25		#10
yorelchr Senior Member christine Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: europe Posts: 125 Rep Power: 17	Hi Marco, Maybe curves are recognized but STARCCM+ then can't "work" on them as they are. Have you tried to import the curves in another way than "3D polyline + Closed curve" if other options exist (I have no *.csv file so I can't see what choices are available).

April 25, 2014, 14:14		#11
marcolovatto New Member Marco Leonardelli Lovatto Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 15	Actually the import is successful on version 9, the extrude command isn't (neither with huge geometries nor smaller than 1000m). The only way I found to get rid of this problem was by importing the .csv file with coordinates reduced by a factor of 0.001 on version 8, creating the extrude, saving, opening on version 9, creating the part, then re-scaling the geometry by a factor of 1000.

April 25, 2014, 14:19		#12
marcolovatto New Member Marco Leonardelli Lovatto Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 15	Considering the need of working on sketches smaller than 1000m, CD-ADAPCO's support told me this a limitation of Parasolid's kernel, which is the base of 3D-CAD.

June 24, 2014, 04:30		#13
lava12005 Senior Member KHB Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Singapore Posts: 118 Rep Power: 16	Been having the same issue here, I create a simple csv file to automate my geometry creation (kind of) When trying to loft/extrude the 3d-curve then the error appears. I used to do it in the previous version (v7/v8), so is this a bug? Anyone has the same issue or any solution?

September 11, 2019, 22:32		#15
lava12005 Senior Member KHB Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Singapore Posts: 118 Rep Power: 16	Hmm my first thought will be that there really is an open wireframe in your model.