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June 24, 2013, 04:08 |
Flow around a ship hull with trim and sinkage
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Manoj
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Hi,
I am trying to simulate flow around a ship hull. I get good wave patern when I run the simulate without rigid body motion using DFBI translation and rotation activation (for trim and sinkage calculation). But when I activate rigid body motion, the converged wave patern formed earlier gets distorted and drag, trim and sinkage values starts to oscillate. I ran the simulation till 50 sec and there is no convergence of drag, trim and sinkage. Kindly help. Thanks Manoj |
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June 24, 2013, 05:37 |
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Kons
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Hi manoj_nav,
could you specify your settings? So I assume you are running transient? What convergence do you expect in drag and sinkage? Whats your solver settings, timestep? Could you plot your values for sinkage,trim, residuals and maybe attach a picture of your domain and mesh? If your project allows you too, you could also just send me the sim file and I'll have a look at it after work, or send me your settings with a different geometry if your data is confidential. Hope I will be able to help. Cheers Kons |
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June 24, 2013, 05:41 |
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Kons
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p.s:
how do you realize the 6DOF (or 3 in your case). Is it a moving, morphing mesh or overset? that's probably where you get in trouble with your free surface. (eg. timestep too big for the accelerations) but hard to say without more information |
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June 24, 2013, 08:15 |
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Hi fuzel
Thanks you for the reply. The setting can be read here - http://www.scribd.com/doc/149664686/summary-report-pdf .The sim file size is large, so I have uploaded the setting summery above. I am running transient simulation with Implicit Unsteady solver time step 0.005 sec, temporal discretization 1st order; K-Epsilon Turbulence - under relaxation factor 0.8; AMG Linear Solver, max inner iteration 8. 6DOF has been realised using a moving mesh. Following are the plots 1. Free surface, 2. Drag, 3. Trim 4. Sinkage , 5. Residuals, Thanks in advance. Manoj |
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June 24, 2013, 08:41 |
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Hey Manoj,
I ll have a look at it after work. Still, if you could send me the sim file it would make it a lot easier and faster finding your problem... Maybe delete Solution and Mesh, it shouldnt be to big then.... Dropbox,Rapidshare.... Cheers Kons |
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June 24, 2013, 09:19 |
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Manoj
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Hi fuzel
Can you send me you email id. Manoj Last edited by manoj_nav; June 26, 2013 at 05:29. Reason: removed email id |
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July 7, 2013, 04:31 |
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Hi,
is there any solution for this problem? I have same problem. But I think I have a solution for this problem. I switched under region --> Physics Value form Lab Reference Frame to Ship Reference Frame. With this settings I get a very good convergence and accordance to the towing tank tests. Difference trim computation to towing tank 0,001°; sink 0,001m The same with Rf und Rp. alfaben |
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October 25, 2013, 15:42 |
Settings link PDF
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Hello
Thanks for the interesting discussion. Do you find/ have the pdf with the settings, somewhere else, because the scribd links seams to be dead?! Thanks a lot in advance. BR Thomas |
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December 3, 2013, 02:11 |
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tb
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Hi manoj_nav,
I am calculating the resistance of DTMB 5415 without rigid body motion using STAR CCM+,my wave patern is bad,can you give me some advise or your sim file without generated mesh? thank you! |
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July 14, 2015, 05:42 |
Resistance calculation using potential flow in Star CCM+
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liladhar
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Dear all
Good day! I am trying to calculate resistance of ship using potential (inviscid) flow method, although one can go for RANS calculations. Objective of this calculation is to get trim table for a tanker hull form.
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