CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Software User Forums > Siemens

Determining alpha and beta for porous baffle

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   October 25, 2000, 19:28
Default Determining alpha and beta for porous baffle
  #1
Liaqat Khan
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
I am a new user of Star-CD, and not sure how to determine alpha and beta values of porous baffle.

The porous baffle in my case represent a screen. When I run the model without the baffle, the solution converges in less than 100 iterations. However, when the baffle is included, and if I use arbitrary values of alpha and beta the solution does not converge in 1000 iterations, and the convergence parameters never fall below 100. I have tried various combinations of alpha and beta, changing their values by order of magnitude, with the same result.

From field and physical model studies, the head loss across the screen is approximately given by HL = 0.125 V^2, where velocity is in ft/s and HL is in feet of water, and the porosity is 0.755.

I would like to use the following equation (equation(8-6) in Methodology)

delP = -rho*(alpha*V+beta)*V

to determine alpha and beta.

From equation for head loss: For V = 1 ft/s (0.3048 m/s), HL = 0.125 ft = 0.054 psi = 373.463 Pa. For V = 2 ft/s (0.6096 m/s), HL = 0.500 ft = 0.217 psi = 1493.85 Pa

Using these estimates of head losses, equations for delP can be written as (rho = 998.2 kg/m^3)

373.463 = -998.2*(alpha*0.3048+beta)*0.3048 1493.87 = -998.2*(alpha*0.6096+beta)*0.6096

If I solve these equations for alpha and beta, I get negative value of alpha and beta is almost zero. Obviously, something is not right.

I will appreciate if some one can give me suggestions how to approach this issue.

Thanks.

Liaqat A. Khan

  Reply With Quote

Old   October 27, 2000, 05:44
Default Re: Determining alpha and beta for porous baffle
  #2
Brian
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Alpha is coming out negative because your pressure drop should be negative. The way you have formulated it, the baffle causes a pressure INCREASE!

But whatever the values, remember to test them against the allowable limits for alpha and beta. You can find these limits in the manual.
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
limit for porous alpha and beta coefficients Guy Siemens 3 December 21, 2008 11:59
How to define the porous baffle Aga Siemens 0 July 24, 2007 02:58
hot porous baffle azmir Siemens 0 February 9, 2006 20:25
to calculate alpha and beta Nirmal Siemens 1 November 9, 2005 01:50
Porous baffle and porous media Jan Siemens 0 June 8, 2002 10:23


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 16:18.