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Old   October 14, 2011, 15:59
Default Velocity Gradients or Pressure Gradients?
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Hallo Foamers,
I have a small problem. I want to calculate the gradients of Velocity in a 2D simulation.
The idea is to calculate the velocity/pressure gradients in the whole mesh and mark the cells with a specified threshold value for the gradient and then refining those cells.
Why I want to do that?
Because I really tried hard to find some automatic mesh refinement strategy in openfoam but I failed.
Thats why I want to perform the refinement in this way. If some one has suggestions regarding my problem I would be really grateful for any help that I shall receive from the big hearted openfoam family.
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Old   October 15, 2011, 05:18
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InterDyMFoam does not work for you (see damBreakWithObstacle tutorial) ?
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Old   October 15, 2011, 12:43
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Thanks Anton,
I have tried the interDyMFoam tutorial. But before going further into detail I would like to ask whether these dynamic Mesh capabilities are avalable for 2D meshes in openFoam. Because for some solver of the same capability (i think it was dieselDyMFoam) I read that the dynamics mesh capabilities are not available for 2D meshes.
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Ah you are right, that tutorial is 3D indeed. Well, either way, all that code should be re-usable, and you should just try to implement a flag like "restrict2D" that turns of refinement in one direction.

Before you do that, have you tried this:

http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/ope...fvmesh-2d.html
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Old   October 18, 2011, 11:25
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Thanks again for your reply Anton.
I have one other issue. interDyMFOMA is not the answer to my problem. I want to use rhoCentralDyMfoam. Do you know any place where I could find some tutorials which could help me use this solver with refinement capabilities.
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a simple approach but not totally sure!
compare interFoam and interDyMFoam together, then you will find extra code lines! then use the same method and lines for ur solver!
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I'm not aware of any such tutorial, sorry. As Nima pointed out, try to use a diff-tool (e.g. meld or kompare) to check for differences between interFoam and interDyMFoam, or rhoCentralFoam and compressibleInterDyMFoam and try to isolate what code you need to add for the moving mesh capabilities. Test your new solver on a simple 3D case, and then see if you can reduce it to 2D.
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Well the suggestions are very nice. I would definitely do that. But if you have understood me correctly I want to refine the mesh for smooth distribution of gradients. But if I use dynamic mesh capabilities I am only stuck with using the velocity or pressure values as the refinement criteria (thats what I have understod from dambreaking tutorial, the refinement is done on basis of a parameter alpha, which actually helps identifies the surface for free surface flows).
I am not sure whether it would a good idea to give a min and max velocity value and refine on the basis of that value. Anyways I will try that and will post the results and observations.
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Hi All,

have you found a tutorial for rhoCentralPimpleDyMFoam??

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Hallo Samuele,
No actually I stopped looking for dynamic mesh capabilities to refine my mesh. But actually I modified my approach and calculated the Velocity Gradients in the flow field and used them as a criteria to refine my mesh. I adopted this method to refine the mesh in shear layers.
And this thread helped me doing what I did, here is the link may be you can have y look.
http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/ope...gradients.html
If you are trying to do the same thing I would be happy to help you.
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