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braennstroem · April 5, 2009, 16:04

Hi,

it seems that there were some replies lost during the convert.

This is the new thread:
http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/ope...amwikinet.html

The old thread looks something like this:
http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cache...ient=firefox-a

In the converted one, there the post between #6 and #7 got lost. Could this be a larger problem or is it just bad luck for this thread?

Greetings!
Fabian

pete · April 6, 2009, 05:36

Yes, seems like a message was lost there. These imports are not easy to do and sometimes messages are lost when something in the format of the message or the author of the message breaks the import routine. I do not know why this message was lost. We have seen similar problems for messages posted by people who have later changed their email address to a broken or missing address. But other messages from this user seems to have imported correctly.

Hopefully we have not lost many messages like this, at least this is the first incident someone has found. During the import we got something like 10 or 20 errors, and we imported more than 30,000 messages from the old OpenFOAM forum. Please feel free to post a new message in this thread to inform people about this missing message in case it is important.

7islands · April 6, 2009, 07:40

Hi,

I also noticed the problem:

New forum: Version 15 on Mac OS X
Old forum: Version 1.5 on Mac OS X

At least, two posts to the old forum Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 06:40 pm and Monday, March 02, 2009 - 01:45 pm, both of which I think are valuable and important contributions, are missing from the new forum.

Takuya

pete · April 6, 2009, 10:33

Great that you notice these problems. Feel free to cut-and-paste the informtaion from important messages into new posts in these threads so that we don't loose this information.

jola · April 6, 2009, 15:46

Yep, there were a few messages that didn't transfer correctly. If you are missing something you can double-check if it existed in this closed copy of the original forum:

http://www.cfd-online.com/cgi-bin/Op...cus/discus.cgi

The original forum addresses has forwading of both forums, threads and individal posts active in order to forward visitors following old links to the correct places in the new forum.

jola · May 29, 2009, 06:12

We have been experimenting with a way to couple the forums to a mailing-list system in order to facilitate some of the email functionality that many of you missed from the old OpenFOAM DiscusWare based forums.

We have just setup a test mailing-list which will redistribute all messages posted to the OpenFOAM forums via email. If you want to test this mailing-list just send an email to majordomo@cfd-online.com with the line "subscribe openfoam" in the body of the message.

Note that this is just a test and the mailing-list might be removed without any notice. We might run into similar capacity problems as we had with the old DiscusWare based forum. To start with we just need a small number of test users, hence this rather small message in a sub-forum

. The benefit with running this separate from the forum is that any mailing problems can be handled separately.

gschaider · May 29, 2009, 09:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by jola

We have been experimenting with a way to couple the forums to a mailing-list system in order to facilitate some of the email functionality that many of you missed from the old OpenFOAM DiscusWare based forums.

We have just setup a test mailing-list which will redistribute all messages posted to the OpenFOAM forums via email. If you want to test this mailing-list just send an email to majordomo@cfd-online.com with the line "subscribe openfoam" in the body of the message.

I'm repeating myself: Thanks for putting so much work into this

Quote:

Originally Posted by jola

Note that this is just a test and the mailing-list might be removed without any notice. We might run into similar capacity problems as we had with the old DiscusWare based forum. To start with we just need a small number of test users, hence this rather small message in a sub-forum

.

But I found it nevertheless. And subscribed

Quote:

Originally Posted by jola

The benefit with running this separate from the forum is that any mailing problems can be handled separately.

Rule Nr 7 of system-administration: "Divide and disable"

Bernhard

ngj · June 3, 2009, 08:06

Hi Jonas

Thanks for making this feature available. However, right now all mails come with the title "New Post/Thread Notification: <Subforum Name>", thus if will become quite impossible to sort the mails according to the title. Would it be possible to change <Subforum Name> to <Thread Title>?

Thanks for your big effort,

Niels

jola · June 3, 2009, 10:03

I have added the thread title after the subforum name in the email subject. I haven't tested it yet, but I hope that it will work. We'll see once this post is sent out if the title is better now.

ngj · June 3, 2009, 10:12

This is just perfect

braennstroem · June 3, 2009, 13:50

Hi Jonas,
quite nice! Though, I got one more feature request. Wouldn't it be much better readable and less band width demanding to shorten the message, e.g. the current way looks like:
"Hello,

ngj has just posted in the OpenFOAM Running / Solving / CFD forum of CFD Online Discussion Forums under the title of How to set up the velocity in the let boudary changing with time..

This thread is located at http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/ope...ging-time.html

Here is the message that has just been posted:***************"

And do something like

"ngj: How to set up the velocity in the let boudary changing with time..
***
<POSTED MESSAGE>
***

This thread is located at http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/openfoam-solving/65088-how-set-up-velocity-let-boudary-changing-time.html
<and then the rest>"

Regards!
Fabian

jola · June 3, 2009, 15:58

Bandwith is not the problem, the potential problem is the time and resources used to send the email messages (sendmail, lookup of host addresses, mail-scanning for potential viruses etc...). In the default setup the email message used in these "New Post/Thread" emails is the same as the email message used in other types of notifications. For example the notifications you get from threads that you are subscribed to contain exactly the same message. The default setup on the forum is that people are automatically subscribed to threads where they have posted. Hence, people might receive these message without knowing what it is about. That makes it necessary to be fairly explicit in explaining what the email is about.

April 5, 2009, 16:04	Missing replies	#21
braennstroem Senior Member Fabian Braennstroem Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 407 Rep Power: 19	Hi, it seems that there were some replies lost during the convert. This is the new thread: http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/ope...amwikinet.html The old thread looks something like this: http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cache...ient=firefox-a In the converted one, there the post between #6 and #7 got lost. Could this be a larger problem or is it just bad luck for this thread? Greetings! Fabian

May 29, 2009, 06:12	Mailing list tests	#26
jola Administrator Jonas Larsson Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 838 Rep Power: 10	We have been experimenting with a way to couple the forums to a mailing-list system in order to facilitate some of the email functionality that many of you missed from the old OpenFOAM DiscusWare based forums. We have just setup a test mailing-list which will redistribute all messages posted to the OpenFOAM forums via email. If you want to test this mailing-list just send an email to majordomo@cfd-online.com with the line "subscribe openfoam" in the body of the message. Note that this is just a test and the mailing-list might be removed without any notice. We might run into similar capacity problems as we had with the old DiscusWare based forum. To start with we just need a small number of test users, hence this rather small message in a sub-forum . The benefit with running this separate from the forum is that any mailing problems can be handled separately.

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April 6, 2009, 05:36		#22
pete Administrator Peter Jones Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 682 Rep Power: 10	Yes, seems like a message was lost there. These imports are not easy to do and sometimes messages are lost when something in the format of the message or the author of the message breaks the import routine. I do not know why this message was lost. We have seen similar problems for messages posted by people who have later changed their email address to a broken or missing address. But other messages from this user seems to have imported correctly. Hopefully we have not lost many messages like this, at least this is the first incident someone has found. During the import we got something like 10 or 20 errors, and we imported more than 30,000 messages from the old OpenFOAM forum. Please feel free to post a new message in this thread to inform people about this missing message in case it is important.

April 6, 2009, 07:40		#23
7islands Super Moderator Takuya OSHIMA Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Niigata City, Japan Posts: 518 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 20	Hi, I also noticed the problem: New forum: Version 15 on Mac OS X Old forum: Version 1.5 on Mac OS X At least, two posts to the old forum Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 06:40 pm and Monday, March 02, 2009 - 01:45 pm, both of which I think are valuable and important contributions, are missing from the new forum. Takuya

April 6, 2009, 10:33		#24
pete Administrator Peter Jones Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 682 Rep Power: 10	Great that you notice these problems. Feel free to cut-and-paste the informtaion from important messages into new posts in these threads so that we don't loose this information.

April 6, 2009, 15:46		#25
jola Administrator Jonas Larsson Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 838 Rep Power: 10	Yep, there were a few messages that didn't transfer correctly. If you are missing something you can double-check if it existed in this closed copy of the original forum: http://www.cfd-online.com/cgi-bin/Op...cus/discus.cgi The original forum addresses has forwading of both forums, threads and individal posts active in order to forward visitors following old links to the correct places in the new forum.

June 3, 2009, 08:06		#28
ngj Senior Member Niels Gjoel Jacobsen Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 1,903 Rep Power: 37	Hi Jonas Thanks for making this feature available. However, right now all mails come with the title "New Post/Thread Notification: <Subforum Name>", thus if will become quite impossible to sort the mails according to the title. Would it be possible to change <Subforum Name> to <Thread Title>? Thanks for your big effort, Niels

June 3, 2009, 10:03		#29
jola Administrator Jonas Larsson Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 838 Rep Power: 10	I have added the thread title after the subforum name in the email subject. I haven't tested it yet, but I hope that it will work. We'll see once this post is sent out if the title is better now.

June 3, 2009, 10:12		#30
ngj Senior Member Niels Gjoel Jacobsen Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 1,903 Rep Power: 37	This is just perfect

June 3, 2009, 13:50		#31
braennstroem Senior Member Fabian Braennstroem Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 407 Rep Power: 19	Hi Jonas, quite nice! Though, I got one more feature request. Wouldn't it be much better readable and less band width demanding to shorten the message, e.g. the current way looks like: "Hello, ngj has just posted in the OpenFOAM Running / Solving / CFD forum of CFD Online Discussion Forums under the title of How to set up the velocity in the let boudary changing with time.. This thread is located at http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/ope...ging-time.html Here is the message that has just been posted:*************" And do something like "ngj: How to set up the velocity in the let boudary changing with time.. * <POSTED MESSAGE> *** This thread is located at http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/openfoam-solving/65088-how-set-up-velocity-let-boudary-changing-time.html <and then the rest>" Regards! Fabian

June 3, 2009, 15:58		#32
jola Administrator Jonas Larsson Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 838 Rep Power: 10	Bandwith is not the problem, the potential problem is the time and resources used to send the email messages (sendmail, lookup of host addresses, mail-scanning for potential viruses etc...). In the default setup the email message used in these "New Post/Thread" emails is the same as the email message used in other types of notifications. For example the notifications you get from threads that you are subscribed to contain exactly the same message. The default setup on the forum is that people are automatically subscribed to threads where they have posted. Hence, people might receive these message without knowing what it is about. That makes it necessary to be fairly explicit in explaining what the email is about.