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September 7, 2011, 09:27 |
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Thank you Alberto, I also found it and now trying to understand this expression.
Please see attached file Volumefield_reconstruction.pdf. I am looking for the original reference where this formulation is established. Could you please give some tips?
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September 7, 2011, 22:16 |
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I do not have a reference for this, but I think you got it.
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Alexander, I think it would be nice to have this on the wiki. If you agree, do you have the time to copy it to an article there?
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September 8, 2011, 04:39 |
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Hi Anton!
Ok, I will put it there. And if Alberto doesn't mind, it would look better with his description of the body forces and the pressure gradient treatment technique.
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Alexander,
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July 26, 2012, 05:28 |
Could you be so kind to write down the corresponding code for the equation for p?
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Dear Alberto,
thank you very much for this very detailed explanation about the issue how to add correctly a body force to the (incompressible) momentum equation! I would be grateful if you would still specify the corresponding code for the p equation. Best regards, Vladimir Quote:
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Hallo Vladimir,
I don't understand everything yet, but based on interFoam it should be sth like that: Quote:
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Working on pisoFoam, I think rho has to be removed. I do not know if phi has to contain only the velocity flux, or the 'force flux', too. Any idea? For my understanding: Can someone give me a hint, what 'reconstruct' does? It 'adds' terms to the equation and changes A and H? But there must be a difference between Quote:
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July 30, 2012, 02:33 |
plz help me
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Hi Dear alberto again:
I want to add surface tension(sigma) in one solver,for this reason I added : please help me,and tell me ,How to correct this problem???#include ''fvCFD.H'' fvc::interpolate(interface.sigma()) in this code: Foam::tmp<Foam::volScalarField> Foam:haseChangeTwoPhaseMixtures::SchnerrSauer: Coeff ( const volScalarField& p ) const { volScalarField limitedAlpha1(min(max(alpha1_, scalar(0)), scalar(1))); volScalarField rho ( limitedAlpha1*rho1() + (scalar(1) - limitedAlpha1)*rho2() ); return //......I want to change it( <<sigma>> surface tension multiple in it): (3*rho1()*rho2())*sqrt(2/(3*rho1()))*(fvc::interpolate(interface.sigma())) *rRb(limitedAlpha1)/(rho*sqrt(mag(p - pSat()) + 0.01*pSat())); //.................................................. ...... } dont successful wmake, and seen(was not declared ): phaseChangeTwoPhaseMixtures/SchnerrSauer/SchnerrSauer.C:113: error: 'interface' was not declared in this scope make: *** [Make/linux64GccDPOpt/SchnerrSauer.o] Error 1 |
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HI all,
How could it be done in case it is not a body force but a vectorField? All is in relation to the rotorDiskSource and how introducing this source in the momentum equation can create wiggles in the pressure field and velocity field. Thank you Last edited by be_inspired; June 6, 2014 at 08:14. |
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Hello Harry, Did you finally solve your problem? I have met a similar problem regarding the body-force-weighted scheme for pressure interpolation. Do you have any ideas on this? Thanks a lot for your help and time! Best, Peter |
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Hi,
I know this treat is old but I'm struggling with the implementation of the force term by the use of the Rhi-Chow interpolation. I'm using pimpleFoam. So far I added in the momentum predictor my force term like this: Code:
surfaceScalarField B_fs = fvc::interpolate(lorentz/rho) & mesh.Sf() if (pimple.momentumPredictor()) { solve ( UEqn == fvc::reconstruct ( - fvc::snGrad(p)* mesh.magSf() + B_fs ) ); fvOptions.correct(U); } I added a flux term in the phiHbyA equation: Code:
surfaceScalarField rAUf("rAUf", fvc::interpolate(rAU)); surfaceScalarField phil(rAUf*B_fs); surfaceScalarField phiHbyA ( "phiHbyA", fvc::flux(HbyA) + fvc::interpolate(rAU)*fvc::ddtCorr(U, phi) + phil ); Code:
U = HbyA + rAU*fvc::reconstruct((phil - pEqn.flux())/rAUf); Code:
Continuity error cannot be removed by adjusting the outflow. Please check the velocity boundary conditions and/or run potentialFoam to initialise the outflow. Total flux : 8.226416123979263e-05 Specified mass inflow : 0.0005613679754126387 Specified mass outflow : 6.154738583391114e-17 Adjustable mass outflow : 0 Thanks in advance |
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The problem is solved. I had to add the flux from the force after adjusting phi.
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surfaceScalarField phil(rAUf*B_fs); surfaceScalarField phiHbyA ( "phiHbyA", fvc::flux(HbyA) + fvc::interpolate(rAU)*fvc::ddtCorr(U, phi) ); MRF.makeRelative(phiHbyA); adjustPhi(phiHbyA, U, p); phiHbyA += phil; |
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September 19, 2017, 05:42 |
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Have you also modified the line Code:
// Calculate the conservative fluxes phi = phiHbyA - p_rghEqn.flux();
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September 21, 2017, 05:29 |
high residuals for p_rgh
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I am trying to add body force to momentum equation like this where M is a body force. I based on buoyantBoussinesqPimpleFoam solver. I followed according to the instructions you provided and others on the forum and I changed the UEqn.H and pEqn.H as follows UEqn.H Code:
tmp<fvVectorMatrix> tUEqn ( fvm::ddt(U) + fvm::div(phi, U) + MRF.DDt(U) + turbulence->divDevReff(U) == fvOptions(U) ); fvVectorMatrix& UEqn = tUEqn.ref(); UEqn.relax(); fvOptions.constrain(UEqn); if (pimple.momentumPredictor()) { solve ( UEqn == fvc::reconstruct ( ( - ghf*fvc::snGrad(rhok) - fvc::snGrad(p_rgh) )*mesh.magSf() - (fvc::interpolate(M) & mesh.Sf()) ) ); fvOptions.correct(U); } Code:
{ volScalarField rAU("rAU", 1.0/UEqn.A()); surfaceScalarField rAUf("rAUf", fvc::interpolate(rAU)); volVectorField HbyA(constrainHbyA(rAU*UEqn.H(), U, p_rgh)); surfaceScalarField phig(-rAUf*ghf*fvc::snGrad(rhok)*mesh.magSf()); surfaceScalarField phiM(-rAUf*(fvc::interpolate(M) & mesh.Sf())); surfaceScalarField phiHbyA ( "phiHbyA", fvc::flux(HbyA) + rAUf*fvc::ddtCorr(U, phi) + phig + phiM ); MRF.makeRelative(phiHbyA); // Update the pressure BCs to ensure flux consistency constrainPressure(p_rgh, U, phiHbyA, rAUf, MRF); while (pimple.correctNonOrthogonal()) { fvScalarMatrix p_rghEqn ( fvm::laplacian(rAUf, p_rgh) == fvc::div(phiHbyA) ); p_rghEqn.setReference(pRefCell, getRefCellValue(p_rgh, pRefCell)); p_rghEqn.solve(mesh.solver(p_rgh.select(pimple.finalInnerIter()))); if (pimple.finalNonOrthogonalIter()) { // Calculate the conservative fluxes phi = phiHbyA - p_rghEqn.flux(); // Explicitly relax pressure for momentum corrector p_rgh.relax(); // Correct the momentum source with the pressure gradient flux // calculated from the relaxed pressure U = HbyA + rAU*fvc::reconstruct((phiM + phig - p_rghEqn.flux())/rAUf); //5 (+) U.correctBoundaryConditions(); fvOptions.correct(U); } } #include "continuityErrs.H" p = p_rgh + rhok*gh; if (p_rgh.needReference()) { p += dimensionedScalar ( "p", p.dimensions(), pRefValue - getRefCellValue(p, pRefCell) ); p_rgh = p - rhok*gh; } }
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Hi gaza,
I had problems when adding a source term without adjusting the flux to ensure mass conservation. Try to add the source terms after adjusting phi to your flux phiHybA. Quote:
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Hi Novel,
Thank you for your tip however in my case I do not see the difference after adjustPhi.
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