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Old   October 11, 2021, 01:47
Default rhoCentralFoam sensible internal energy error?
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Hi guys,

Currently I am running a double wedge case with rhoCentralFoam and faced an issue while running a case.

Before running the case, I did some validations and grid convergences beforehand so the initial BCs and thermoproperties is not a problem I think. However once I moved onto the actual case, the calculation crashed at a certain timestep, which I have tried to change the relTol etc in fvsolution, reconstruct a few time interval ahead and run it, restart Ubuntu, lower the CFL number. Yet nothing worked out.

At the time when the calculation crashed, before listing out the residual of e, which is internal energy, the message showed as below:

Code:
Mean and max Courant Numbers = 0.0318184 0.190774
deltaT = 1e-09
Time = 0.0005743518088784423

diagonal:  Solving for rho, Initial residual = 0, Final residual = 0, No Iterations 0
diagonal:  Solving for rhoUx, Initial residual = 0, Final residual = 0, No Iterations 0
diagonal:  Solving for rhoUy, Initial residual = 0, Final residual = 0, No Iterations 0
DICPBiCGStab:  Solving for Ux, Initial residual = 4.40828e-07, Final residual = 4.26965e-12, No Iterations 1
DICPBiCGStab:  Solving for Uy, Initial residual = 4.85822e-07, Final residual = 5.35129e-12, No Iterations 1
diagonal:  Solving for rhoE, Initial residual = 0, Final residual = 0, No Iterations 0

Primary job  terminated normally, but 1 process returned
a non-zero exit code. Per user-direction, the job has been aborted.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
mpiexec detected that one or more processes exited with non-zero status, thus causing
the job to be terminated. The first process to do so was:

  Process name: [[18653,1],2]
  Exit code:    144
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
I think there is something to do with internal energy, but I am unable to tackle. Hope I can can some help from u guys. Thanks a lot. I have been stuck on this for 3 days.
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Old   October 11, 2021, 08:53
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Hi,


we need your BCs, fvSchemes and CFL-Number in order to help you.
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Old   October 12, 2021, 23:01
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Sorry for the late reply. Here are the info:
U
Code:
/*--------------------------------*- C++ -*----------------------------------*\
| =========                 |                                                 |
| \\      /  F ield         | OpenFOAM: The Open Source CFD Toolbox           |
|  \\    /   O peration     | Version:  v2012                                 |
|   \\  /    A nd           | Website:  www.openfoam.com                      |
|    \\/     M anipulation  |                                                 |
\*---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/
FoamFile
{
    version     2.0;
    format      ascii;
    class       volVectorField;
    object      U;
}
// * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * //

dimensions      [0 1 -1 0 0 0 0];

internalField   uniform (1972 0 0);

boundaryField
{
    inlet
    {
        type            fixedValue;
        value           uniform (1972 0 0);
    }

    outlet
    {
        type            inletOutlet;
        inletValue	uniform (1972 0 0);
        value	uniform (1972 0 0);	
    }

    top
    {
        type            supersonicFreestream;
        pInf            391;
        TInf            191;
        UInf           (1972 0 0);
        gamma           1.4;
        value           uniform (1972 0 0);
    }

    obstacle
    {
        type            fixedValue;
        value           uniform (0 0 0);
    }

    defaultFaces
    {
        type            empty;
    }
}


// ************************************************************************* //
p
Code:
/*--------------------------------*- C++ -*----------------------------------*\
| =========                 |                                                 |
| \\      /  F ield         | OpenFOAM: The Open Source CFD Toolbox           |
|  \\    /   O peration     | Version:  v2012                                 |
|   \\  /    A nd           | Website:  www.openfoam.com                      |
|    \\/     M anipulation  |                                                 |
\*---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/
FoamFile
{
    version     2.0;
    format      ascii;
    class       volScalarField;
    object      p;
}
// * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * //

dimensions      [1 -1 -2 0 0 0 0];

internalField   uniform 391;

boundaryField
{
    inlet
    {
        type           fixedValue;
        value          uniform 391;
    } 

    outlet
    {
        type            waveTransmissive;
        field           p;
        psi             thermo:psi;
        gamma           1.4;
        fieldInf        391;
        lInf            1;
        value          uniform 391;
    }

    top
    {
        type           zeroGradient;
    }

    obstacle
    {
        type            zeroGradient;
    }

    defaultFaces
    {
        type            empty;
    }
}


// ************************************************************************* //
T
Code:
/*--------------------------------*- C++ -*----------------------------------*\
| =========                 |                                                 |
| \\      /  F ield         | OpenFOAM: The Open Source CFD Toolbox           |
|  \\    /   O peration     | Version:  v2012                                 |
|   \\  /    A nd           | Website:  www.openfoam.com                      |
|    \\/     M anipulation  |                                                 |
\*---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/
FoamFile
{
    version     2.0;
    format      ascii;
    class       volScalarField;
    object      T;
}
// * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * //

dimensions      [0 0 0 1 0 0 0];

internalField   uniform 191;

boundaryField
{
    inlet
    {
        type            fixedValue;
        value           $internalField;
    }

    outlet
    {
        type            inletOutlet;
        value           $internalField;
        inletValue      $internalField;
    }

    top
    {
        type            inletOutlet;
        value           $internalField;
        inletValue      $internalField;
    }

    obstacle
    {
        type            fixedValue;
        value           uniform 300;
    }

    defaultFaces
    {
        type            empty;
    }
}


// ************************************************************************* //
fvscheme
Code:
/*--------------------------------*- C++ -*----------------------------------*\
| =========                 |                                                 |
| \\      /  F ield         | OpenFOAM: The Open Source CFD Toolbox           |
|  \\    /   O peration     | Version:  v2012                                 |
|   \\  /    A nd           | Web:      www.OpenFOAM.org                      |
|    \\/     M anipulation  |                                                 |
\*---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/
FoamFile
{
    version     2.0;
    format      ascii;
    class       dictionary;
    location    "system";
    object      fvSchemes;
}
// * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * //

fluxScheme      Kurganov;

ddtSchemes
{
    default         backward;
}

gradSchemes
{
    default         cellLimited Gauss linear 1;
    grad(p)         cellLimited Gauss linear 0.333;
    grad(e)         cellLimited Gauss linear 0.333;
}

divSchemes
{
    default         Gauss vanLeer;
    div(phi,U)      Gauss vanLeerV;
    div(phi,K)      Gauss vanLeer;
    div(phi,e)      Gauss vanLeer;
    div(phi,T)      Gauss vanLeer;
    div(phid,p)      Gauss vanLeer;
    div((nuEff*dev2(t(grad(U)))))     Gauss linear;
    div(tauMC)      Gauss linear;
}

laplacianSchemes
{
    default         Gauss linear limited 1;
}

interpolationSchemes
{
    default         vanLeer pos;
    reconstruct(rho) vanLeer;
    reconstruct(U)  vanLeerV;
    reconstruct(T)  vanLeer;
    flux(rhoU) vanLeer pos;
    dotInterpolate(S,tauMC) vanLeer pos;
    interpolate(muEff) vanLeer pos;
    interpolate(rho) vanLeer;
}

snGradSchemes
{
    default         limited 1;
}

// ************************************************************************* //
The CFL number I have controlled it at 0.4 since it crashes once it reaches 0.5. So by lowering the CFL number, somehow it means I lowered the max.dT.
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Old   October 14, 2021, 04:59
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Hi,


here are some hints that might work:


1. CFL of 0.5 or 0.4 is quite high, you should rather use 0.2 or 0.3 with vanLeer. Even 0.1 is sometime necessary.



2. I have never used the supersonicFreeStream BC, what does it do excactly?


3. I think the main problem is the pressure, you are close to 0. You certainly will have some numerical oscillations and as soon as you reach a negative value the simulation will crash.



4. Also on the pressure: Why is it so low? This is basically vacuum. In vacuum you dont have a continuum.


5. What is vanLeer pos? First time I am seeing this.
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Old   October 15, 2021, 01:44
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Thanks for your reply!

1. I use such a high CFL number since the time step I am using is just 1e-9s, and for my validation case, which has a much aggressive phenomena, was working perfectly with a even higher CFL number.

2. For the supersonicFreeStream BC, according to OpenFOAM, it stated as:

Quote:
supersonic inflow is assumed to occur according to the Prandtl-Meyer expansion process.
subsonic outflow is applied via a zero-gradient condition from inside the domain.
I think it is fine cause I checked the farfield and nth is wrong with that.

3&4.The magnitude of the pressure is fixed as I am more or less likely replicating the hypersonic wedge cases done by Austin.

5. That's actually something weird for me at first. Cause I was unable to use vanLeer solely for those interpolations, then I looked into the source code:

Code:
 surfaceVectorField rhoU_pos
        (
            fvc::interpolate(rhoU, pos, "reconstruct(U)")
        );
        surfaceVectorField rhoU_neg
        (
            fvc::interpolate(rhoU, neg, "reconstruct(U)")
        );
where pos and neg indication can be read from:

RhoCentralFoam detail
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I dont know what agressive phenomena are, but this might be the reason why vanLeer crashes. You are on the edge of stability, usually you need Co numbers of 0.1 to 0.3 for flows with high gradients. You have to chose between high accuracy or low calculation time.


You cant just use the vanLeer pos, because flux needs to be evaluated in both directions. I have just made some suggestions how those dicts may look like in here: Can rhoCentralFoam resolve turbulence?
Please always look into the tutorials!


Have you checked the knudsen number? If the flow is not a continuum, you cant use the navier stokes equations.
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Old   October 15, 2021, 07:27
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However, I am unable to proceed without defining the direction of flux. My advisor has stated that I must use full vanLeer or Minmod for interpolation and divschemes.

The designed flow I am using is a laminar flow, so I dont think turbulence plays a big part of the issue.

And again, I am replicating the case done by Austin, which I am directly copying all initial boundaries which have been proved perfectly fine since 2012.
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Briefly said: Prescribing the direction is wrong. In compressible flow also backflow can occure.


I am not saying you should refer to his turbulence problem, just look at the schemes I am suggesting... At least read it when I am trying to help you.


"Case by Austin" - you are not proving any information besides that an austin has calculated something. How am I supposed to know what exactly he was doing or if it was a peer reviewed journal article or just a youtube video? And if you would exactly replicate his case this error would not occure.
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Sorry for my attitude, I didnt mean to sound rude and I do really appreciate your help. Plus its nice to discuss with people about rhoCentralFoam as I am extremely new to CFD.

I did take some of your advices and currently running the case again and seeing how it goes. I hope it will work till the end but I also would like your help if anything happens in the future.
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Also I have a question, what is the difference between phid and phiv and phi? I cant really find a good explanation atm.
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Different solver use different implementations of phi. I dont know the definition of those, but you can look that up in the C++ guide:
https://cpp.openfoam.org/v9/
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