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Old   April 2, 2018, 05:58
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When I have a wall I typically use "noSlip" as boundary condition for the velocity U also when dealing with turbulent flow.
At the same time I use turbulence models with wallfunctions for the turbulence variables.
It does not seem like there are specific wallFunctions for the velocity.
Is the answer that in practice the velocity U is indirectly determined by wallfunctions through the turbulence variables (that is modelled with wallFunctions)?
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To my knowledge, the typical expectation is that your velocity is Zero (0 0 0) at the wall. That is why you use a noSlip, or fixedValue (0 0 0) which does the same, boundary condition.
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To my knowledge, the typical expectation is that your velocity is Zero (0 0 0) at the wall. That is why you use a noSlip, or fixedValue (0 0 0) which does the same, boundary condition.
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So one has no slip at the wall, but do you know what one have between the wall and the 1st cell for U when one use e.g. nutUSpalding for nut at the wall?
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There is no wall function for U because the flow is the result of your calculation. If you use only p and U, then you don't have any additional model for turbulence. If you use such a model (e.g. k-epsilon) this model influences the flow. It does that in a different way in the near of walls.

The wall function is not a property of the flow but a property of the model of turbulence.
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There is no wall function for U because the flow is the result of your calculation. If you use only p and U, then you don't have any additional model for turbulence. If you use such a model (e.g. k-epsilon) this model influences the flow. It does that in a different way in the near of walls.

The wall function is not a property of the flow but a property of the model of turbulence.
What you say seems to confirm my suggested answer, that U is indirectly affected by wall functions if one use turbulence models that apply wallfunctions.
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