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December 5, 2017, 00:29 |
Running a turbulent case by using a laminar solution
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Hi,
I have been trying to run a hypersonic double cone problem with turbulence modelling. Using komega-sst, the omega diverged after 3-4 time steps. I changed to another model and the same thing happens. So I tried to run my case using my previous laminar solution, which completed w/p problem. To reach steady state, I ran until t=0.005 in the laminar case. So I tried to use the laminar solution at t=0.0002 to start my turbulent case, and let it run till 0.005. Is this a reasonable or correct way to simulate a turbulent case? Another online study suggested running at a low Re 1st, then increasing the Re to the actual one as time proceeds. Is that ok too? Thanks. |
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December 5, 2017, 10:47 |
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Both are okay. I would think the laminar solution is preferred over the solution at wrong Reynolds number. I don't get why you don't use the lastest laminar solution as the initial condition for your turbulent case.
A better solution though is to try and figure out what set of schemes is making it blow up, assuming it's not something simple like providing the correct initial k and omega fields. |
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December 6, 2017, 01:56 |
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Hi LuckyTran,
Thanks for the reply. My case converges to a steady solution. So I thought that if I start with a laminar steady solution, the new turbulent steady solution may be too similar to the laminar one. I already tried to mix different schemes, like upwind etc. However, it still blows up. There are simply too many possible combinations and I have tried quite a few. Hence, I decided to use this mtd. It seems to be working (not diverging) but I have yet to anaylze the results. |
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December 6, 2017, 18:04 |
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I always use the same approach when I have problems with stability. I start with a case with a lower Reynolds and increase the Reynolds little by little. The big problem with CFD in general are the BC and IC. With turbulence models this becomes more important.
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December 6, 2017, 21:43 |
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Hi juliom,
I'll try your mtd too. Thanks! |
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