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Old   January 7, 2016, 11:03
Default strange u+ values with LES-Smagorinsky
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Hello!

I'm getting strange u+ values by using LES with Smagorinsky (see attachment).

I'm modeling open channel flow, my y+ values are under 1 (around 0.6), for the wall boundary condition i'm using:

nuSgs --> nutUSpaldingWallFunction
U --> fixedValue uniform (0 0 0)
p_rgh --> zeroGradient
alpha.water --> zeroGradient

The mesh refinement towards the wall is linear with a step around 1.2.

It seems like the u+ values follow a linear law in the viscous and logaritmic region.

With a coarser mesh, where y+ is greater then 30, the results are OK (the u+ values follow the logaritmic law).

Has anyone experienced the same issues? In my knowledge one can use y+=1 values in LES models because of the vanDriest damping. Is the openfoam LES model limited only for y+ values in the logaritmic region (this is y+>30).

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Old   January 7, 2016, 12:50
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Hello.
I'm not sure but as I know y+ should be from 10 to 300.
CFL should be < 1.
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Hi!

Thanks for the reply... Yes, it looks like it is only suitable for larger y+ values, regardless the van Driest damping...or the damping is to big, considering that the u+ values behave linear also in the logaritmic region?...i'm not sure

Maybe my LESproperties are not well defined? I've used the properties from the tutorial with delta set to vanDriest.

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