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Old   July 12, 2013, 11:51
Default Rapid expansion of Helium: wrong behavior in regards to Joule-Thomson effect
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Hello,

I am simulating the rapid expansion of a variety of gas in a near vacuum cavity, so the Joule-Thomson effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joule%E...Thomson_effect) comes in play.

As far as I understand, this effect is only possible with non-ideal (real) gases, so I am pleased to see that I am able to see it with my current solver (rhoCentralFoam) and thermophysical properties.

The only problem is that this effect doesn't exist for a particular gas (Helium) and temperature (300 K), as can be seen from this graph: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...n_curves_2.svg (note the different sign). But openFoam seems to not take this into account and still give me a cooling expansion.

What is wrong with the model, and how can I account for that?
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Hi,
I am dealing actually with similar problem.
But in my case I think that OF does not care properly for the "rapid gas expansion".
I have flow where cold He is inletting to the warm surrounding 300K. I think it does not behave correctly because it does not expand as rapid as "it should".
I am using reactingFOAM and ideal gas equation.

Any suggestions ?

Thanks
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