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March 15, 2013, 13:31 |
2D flow over a Bump in channel
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Ben Graves
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Hi guys,
I am currently trying to run a validation case of flow over a 2D bump in a channel, using simplefoam with the k-omega SST turbulence model. I am having trouble getting the results to match the existing results by NASA at the following website, http://turbmodels.larc.nasa.gov/bump.html. The analysis looks like it is going to converge and then after 2 to 3 thousand iterations taking most of a day the time step continuity errors blow up . Thanks, -Ben |
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March 16, 2013, 21:23 |
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Santiago Marquez Damian
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I think you should contact
http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/members/nisi.html he was solving this kind of problems with simpleFoam. Regards
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March 3, 2017, 16:33 |
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Andrea Matiz C
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Hello
I am trying to simulate the same case. My setup is compressible solver (rhoSimpleFoam) in OF3.1 and I have succeed at running the case for the three coarsest grids provided by NASA. However for the last two (refined mesh) my simulation crashed and I can not find the problem. I have found that the relaxation factors play an important role in the convergence so I have changed to p=0.05 and rho=0.1. This has made my simulation a little slow however I achieve more iterations with this change. I am positive the problem is not in the boundary conditions because I have succeed with the same BC in coarse grids. And I have also changed the solvers and the discretization schemes. But nothing seems to work and I do not know what else can be the problem. The odd thing is whatever I change on the setup I just get to make 29 iterations. I really have not clue what else can be the problem, and I would really appreciate if you can help me. Thanks in advance |
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March 4, 2017, 02:20 |
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Uwe Pilz
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Dear Andrea,
without knowing the problem in detail: A finer mesh requires a smaller time step too. In solvers where the time step can be set, make it smaller. Some solvers require to lower the maximal Co number. A larger relaxation factor is a third aid to (in fact) reduce the time step.
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March 6, 2017, 15:26 |
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Andrea Matiz C
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Dear Uwe
Thank you very much for your answer but I'm using compressible steady-state solver (rhoSimpleFoam) so the time step shouldn't be a problem. As many people has suggested me that solution I've tried anyway but the problem persists and I still do not get any solution. My simulations crashes after 29 iterations no matter what I change. Any other tip would be helpful regards |
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March 9, 2017, 03:20 |
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Uwe Pilz
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Are you sure that you don't have problems with the mesh? Did you try checkMesh?
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March 23, 2017, 15:41 |
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Andrea Matiz C
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Dear Uwe
Yes I am sure about the mesh, checkMesh just failed at high aspect ratio cells around 8% of cells are with high aspect ratio. But I do not think that is the problem. I am absolutely clueless about this problem I've tried BC, schemes, mesh and the simulation keeps crashing after 29 iterations |
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