CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Software User Forums > OpenFOAM > OpenFOAM Running, Solving & CFD

multiple regions for soild mechanics?

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   October 3, 2012, 18:05
Default multiple regions for soild mechanics?
  #1
New Member
 
Chaz
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 24
Rep Power: 14
chaz is on a distinguished road
Hello,
I would like to solve solid mechanics problems such as shown in the plateHole example in solidDisplacementFoam. However, it is not clear if this solver or a similar solver is able to handle multple regions with different thermal and mechanical properties.

chtMultiRegionFoam handles this, but is there a similar way to solve solid mechanics problems with multiple regions? For example, a problem with two metals bonded that is subject to a temperature change will bend due to their different coefficients of thermal expansion. aka a classic bi-metal problem.

Thank you.
chaz is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   April 22, 2013, 10:37
Default
  #2
New Member
 
Shriya
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6
Rep Power: 13
Shriya is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by chaz View Post
Hello,
I would like to solve solid mechanics problems such as shown in the plateHole example in solidDisplacementFoam. However, it is not clear if this solver or a similar solver is able to handle multple regions with different thermal and mechanical properties.

chtMultiRegionFoam handles this, but is there a similar way to solve solid mechanics problems with multiple regions? For example, a problem with two metals bonded that is subject to a temperature change will bend due to their different coefficients of thermal expansion. aka a classic bi-metal problem.

Thank you.
Hi Chaz,

I'm currently having the same problem. I need to use the solid mechanics solvers for a multi-region case, and I'm not sure how it is done. I can't seem to find any others threads with relevant information. Did you manage to figure it out? If so, could you please get back to me?

Thanks,
Shriya
Shriya is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   April 22, 2013, 11:33
Default
  #3
New Member
 
Chaz
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 24
Rep Power: 14
chaz is on a distinguished road
I have not found a solution, but have not dug into it deeply.

The people at UCD in Dublin look to have that capability, but I have not inquired of them yet. Not sure if their public solvers can handle this type of problem.

http://adhesion.ucd.ie/openfoam/UCD_...AM_-_Home.html
chaz is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   April 22, 2013, 11:41
Default
  #4
New Member
 
Shriya
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6
Rep Power: 13
Shriya is on a distinguished road
Dear Chaz,
Thanks a bunch for your response! I guess I'll have to find a way to combine ChtmultiregionFoam and the solver I need. But, I'll consider contacting them before that.

Shriya
Shriya is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   May 2, 2013, 13:29
Default Computational Mechanics
  #5
New Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 1
Rep Power: 0
ricardow is on a distinguished road
Hi All,

Did you get something about this topic?
I’m interested in use OpenFOAM to solve a solid mechanic problem as shown in plateHole but for a multi-region case.
I would like to know how is the behaving of a well casing when submitted to high temperature and pressure, also considering the in situ stresses.

Thks.
ricardow is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   May 3, 2013, 08:00
Default
  #6
New Member
 
Shriya
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6
Rep Power: 13
Shriya is on a distinguished road
Hi Ricardow,

No, nothing yet. I'm trying to combine the solvers on my own, but it's much harder than I thought! :| I am yet to ask the people at UCD if their solvers have the capabilities for multi-regions.

Shriya
Shriya is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   May 3, 2013, 08:24
Default
  #7
ngj
Senior Member
 
Niels Gjoel Jacobsen
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
Posts: 1,903
Rep Power: 37
ngj will become famous soon enoughngj will become famous soon enough
Hi Shriya,

Merely curious if what you are trying to accomplish really needs multiple regions. Would it not be sufficient with a spatial varying material property?

Any way, in the following thread the solid mechanics library of UCD is discussed:

Code:
http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/openfoam-news-announcements-other/106881-solid-mechanics-solvers-added-openfoam-extend.html
Good luck,

Niels
ngj is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   May 3, 2013, 08:37
Default
  #8
New Member
 
Shriya
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6
Rep Power: 13
Shriya is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by ngj View Post
Hi Shriya,

Merely curious if what you are trying to accomplish really needs multiple regions. Would it not be sufficient with a spatial varying material property?

Any way, in the following thread the solid mechanics library of UCD is discussed:

Code:
http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/openfoam-news-announcements-other/106881-solid-mechanics-solvers-added-openfoam-extend.html
Good luck,

Niels
Hi Niels,

I need to be able to predict the heat transfer between two solids with different material properties. And then I need to be able to calculate the residual stresses that are generated in the process.

Could you please explain 'spatial varying material property'? Do you mean being able to use setFields for a certain portion of the geometry?

Thank you for the link. I'm yet to come across an example where more than a single region is being used though.

Shriya
Shriya is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   May 3, 2013, 08:46
Default
  #9
ngj
Senior Member
 
Niels Gjoel Jacobsen
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
Posts: 1,903
Rep Power: 37
ngj will become famous soon enoughngj will become famous soon enough
Hi,

Yes, as a starting point, you could maybe use e.g. setFields to specify varying thermal and other material properties in one single domain. This is an easy way for you to see, if you obtain reasonable results with such a less sophisticated solver.

However, since I have never looked at solids in OF, I do not know, if you can do it right away, or whether you need to slightly modify the solvers to include spatial variations in these fields.

Kind regards

Niels
ngj is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   May 3, 2013, 09:49
Default
  #10
New Member
 
Shriya
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6
Rep Power: 13
Shriya is on a distinguished road
Hi Niels,

I did attempt that once, but didn't spend too much time on it, because I need to provide boundary conditions at the interface between the two solids, and I reckon that's not possible if I'm dealing with a single domain.
So far I haven't come up with a simpler solution than having to combine the two solvers!

Much thanks for your suggestions.
Shriya
Shriya is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply

Tags
multiregion, solid mechanics, thermal expansion


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
how to set periodic boundary conditions Ganesh FLUENT 15 November 18, 2020 07:09
How to define multiple fluid regions in icem user0314 ANSYS Meshing & Geometry 6 June 2, 2020 01:28
blockCoupled solver for multiple regions benk OpenFOAM 2 February 13, 2014 23:35
OpenFOAM static build on Cray XT5 asaijo OpenFOAM Installation 9 April 6, 2011 13:21
[GAMBIT] Meshing multiple 3D regions gascortado ANSYS Meshing & Geometry 2 February 7, 2011 13:12


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 20:29.