Boundary Condition: "mixed" calculated and gradient

lindstroem · November 12, 2012, 10:05

Hi Foamers!

Is it possible to have a boundary condition that combines both, a "calculated" and a gradient (e.g. zero- or fixedGradient) BC?
What I would like to have is, that it "acts" like a calculated BC until a certain value (of a variable within the solver) is reached, and then switch to a gradient BC. And it should also be possible to switch back.

I had a look at the mixed BC as it looked as if it is quite close to what I want, but I do not understand how the "fraction" can be adjusted within the solver. I did not find any helpful explanations.

Thanks in advance for any advices!
Lindstroem

chegdan · November 12, 2012, 10:25

Have a look at inletOutlet derived boundary condition. Changing the value fraction from 0 to 1 will do what you would like. And for reference...I would look at

http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/ope...tml#post185688

good luck.

lindstroem · November 12, 2012, 11:46

Hi chegdan,

thanks for your help! I think I could work directly with the mixed-BC. But I don't get the functions of the BC in my solver.
First I include the Header, then loop through my boundaries until I find my desired patch. Now how can i actually call for example the valueFraction() from the mixedBC? Do I need the "refCast" first?

thanks again in advance
Lindstroem

chegdan · November 12, 2012, 12:09

Just as a little tip, I would create a derived class from mixedBC the way inletOutlet is constructed. This way you don't need to mess with the templating and bang your head on the table. I did this about a month ago and it ended up to be really simple if I just made a derived class and derived BC.

lindstroem · November 12, 2012, 12:11

Allright

I misunderstood your previous post..

Thanks for sharing your experience!

Greetings!

chegdan · November 12, 2012, 12:56

No problem, glad I could help.

lindstroem · November 20, 2012, 11:57

Hi again,

It's progressing

But one further question: If I want to use the refGradient for a mixedFvPatchScalarField, I need to prescribe a scalar. But how do I interpret this scalar because I would intuitively prescribe a vector..

Thanks!

chegdan · November 20, 2012, 12:08

The gradient in this BC is in the direction normal to the surface.

lindstroem · November 20, 2012, 12:11

So it can only be fixedValue or a zeroGradient, but not a gradient in any prescribed direction?

chegdan · November 20, 2012, 12:35

The only thing that I know of for changing direction is between normal and tangential direction changed via http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/ope...tml#post316165

and further posts in that thread.

If I think of anything on the subject...I'll post back.

lindstroem · November 20, 2012, 12:39

Ok, thanks again for the quick reply! I'll check if the direction mixed BC could somehow work..

Thanks Dan!

November 12, 2012, 10:05	Boundary Condition: "mixed" calculated and gradient	#1
lindstroem Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 113 Rep Power: 16	Hi Foamers! Is it possible to have a boundary condition that combines both, a "calculated" and a gradient (e.g. zero- or fixedGradient) BC? What I would like to have is, that it "acts" like a calculated BC until a certain value (of a variable within the solver) is reached, and then switch to a gradient BC. And it should also be possible to switch back. I had a look at the mixed BC as it looked as if it is quite close to what I want, but I do not understand how the "fraction" can be adjusted within the solver. I did not find any helpful explanations. Thanks in advance for any advices! Lindstroem

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November 12, 2012, 10:25		#2
chegdan Senior Member Daniel P. Combest Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: St. Louis, USA Posts: 621 Rep Power: 0	Have a look at inletOutlet derived boundary condition. Changing the value fraction from 0 to 1 will do what you would like. And for reference...I would look at http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/ope...tml#post185688 good luck.

November 12, 2012, 11:46		#3
lindstroem Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 113 Rep Power: 16	Hi chegdan, thanks for your help! I think I could work directly with the mixed-BC. But I don't get the functions of the BC in my solver. First I include the Header, then loop through my boundaries until I find my desired patch. Now how can i actually call for example the valueFraction() from the mixedBC? Do I need the "refCast" first? thanks again in advance Lindstroem

November 12, 2012, 12:09		#4
chegdan Senior Member Daniel P. Combest Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: St. Louis, USA Posts: 621 Rep Power: 0	Just as a little tip, I would create a derived class from mixedBC the way inletOutlet is constructed. This way you don't need to mess with the templating and bang your head on the table. I did this about a month ago and it ended up to be really simple if I just made a derived class and derived BC.

November 12, 2012, 12:11		#5
lindstroem Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 113 Rep Power: 16	Allright I misunderstood your previous post.. Thanks for sharing your experience! Greetings!

November 12, 2012, 12:56		#6
chegdan Senior Member Daniel P. Combest Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: St. Louis, USA Posts: 621 Rep Power: 0	No problem, glad I could help.

November 20, 2012, 11:57		#7
lindstroem Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 113 Rep Power: 16	Hi again, It's progressing But one further question: If I want to use the refGradient for a mixedFvPatchScalarField, I need to prescribe a scalar. But how do I interpret this scalar because I would intuitively prescribe a vector.. Thanks!

November 20, 2012, 12:08		#8
chegdan Senior Member Daniel P. Combest Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: St. Louis, USA Posts: 621 Rep Power: 0	The gradient in this BC is in the direction normal to the surface.

November 20, 2012, 12:11		#9
lindstroem Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 113 Rep Power: 16	So it can only be fixedValue or a zeroGradient, but not a gradient in any prescribed direction?

November 20, 2012, 12:35		#10
chegdan Senior Member Daniel P. Combest Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: St. Louis, USA Posts: 621 Rep Power: 0	The only thing that I know of for changing direction is between normal and tangential direction changed via http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/ope...tml#post316165 and further posts in that thread. If I think of anything on the subject...I'll post back.

November 20, 2012, 12:39		#11
lindstroem Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 113 Rep Power: 16	Ok, thanks again for the quick reply! I'll check if the direction mixed BC could somehow work.. Thanks Dan!