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August 18, 2013, 16:15 |
simple open channel flow, the inlet and outlet are periodic
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Vimaldoss Jesudhas
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Hi Bruno,
Thank you very much for the information... I was able to convert it and just as you predicted the resultant mesh was not very good. As a result, I am trying to run the case in OpenFoam. My domain is a simple open channel flow, the inlet and outlet are periodic, so I have to apply the cyclic or cyclicAMI boundry condition. But I need to specify the mass flow rate at the inlet and outlet as well. Is there a way to specify the mass flow rate and also apply cyclic boundary condition. Kindly suggest me, if there is anything else that I may have to try. |
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August 18, 2013, 16:27 |
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Hi Vimaldoss,
I've moved your post from this thread: http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/ope...esh-o-f-3.html - to a new thread, because the question was off-topic. I was going to tell you to check the OpenFOAM tutorial "incompressible/simpleFoam/pipeCyclic". But it's different from your description, because this tutorial has a fixed inlet flow and the cyclic is around the main pipe axis. Honestly, I can't remember any tutorial that does what you're asking about. But I know this has been asked here on the forum more than once. So, I suggest that you search here on the forum for more information. Let us know what you can find. Best regards, Bruno
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August 18, 2013, 19:52 |
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Hi Bruno,
Thanks for your reply... I was looking at different tutorials for a solution to this problem. I came across a tutorial with a boundary condition called mapped. Would it work in case of my problem? Would I be able to map the inlet velocity profile on the outlet? Do have any experience using this boundary condition? Also what does the term 'offset' mean in this mapped boundary condition? Also could you suggest any tutorials for instructions on how to give velocity profiles at the inlet. Thanks , Vimal. |
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August 18, 2013, 20:44 |
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Hi Vimal,
Of course! The mapped BC, I wasn't remembering it. One such tutorial is "incompressible/pisoFoam/les/pitzDailyMapped". And as of OpenFOAM 2.2, you can find more details about boundary conditions and function objects here: http://foam.sourceforge.net/docs/cpp/modules.html What you're looking for is in the section Coupled boundary Conditions The general idea is that:
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August 18, 2013, 22:47 |
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Hi Bruno,
Thanks for your reply. I will run the case using the mapped BC and compare with the StarCCM results and keep the community posted. Is there a way to port the data from openFOAM to tecplot for post processing? Thanks & Regards, Vimal. |
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August 19, 2013, 13:15 |
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Hi Vimal,
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August 22, 2013, 10:59 |
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Hi Bruno,
I have not been able to still setup the case. Could you let me know why does a simpleFoam a steady state solver has a initial conditions file in motorBike tutorial. Regards, Vimal |
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August 22, 2013, 11:42 |
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If that's the question, then it's simple: this tutorial also demonstrates OpenFOAM's ability to include other files inside existing fields and dictionary files. This is helpful for when we have several variables that we want to configure outside of the field files, without having to look inside each file, looking for which to change. This way, you define the common variables in a single file, then "#include" that file inside each relevant field or dictionary file and use the respective variable (e.g. "$Temperature") inside those field/dictionary files.
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August 22, 2013, 13:36 |
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Hi Bruno,
The reason I asked about that tutorial was, I thought I can make make my inlet and outlet as cyclic and can give the velocity as an initial condition. Do you think this would work? Regards, Vimal. |
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August 22, 2013, 13:41 |
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Hi Vimal,
The only thing that comes to mind is for you to define the inlet and outlet as cyclic patches and define the internal field with the initial value. Other than that, you'll have to use the mapped BC types. Best regards, Bruno
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August 22, 2013, 16:11 |
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Hi Bruno,
Giving the velocity as the initial condition does work with simpleFoam solver. The entire domain is set to that velocity value and there is no variation. I am trying to setup the case using mapped BC. I am trying to specify a massFlowRate at the outlet and trying to map the inlet to that value. My 0/U file entires are Code:
Outlet { type flowRateInletVelocity; rho 1000; massflowRate 48; // Volumetric/mass flow rate [m3/s or kg/s] value uniform (0 0 0); // placeholder } Inlet { type mappedFlowRate; rho rho; phi phi; neigPhi flowRate; value uniform (0 0 0); // placeholde } Code:
--> FOAM FATAL IO ERROR: Please supply either 'volumetricFlowRate' or 'massFlowRate' and 'rho' Your suggestions will be very helpful. Thanks & Regards, Vimal. Last edited by wyldckat; August 22, 2013 at 18:07. Reason: Added [CODE][/CODE] |
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August 22, 2013, 18:13 |
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Hi Vimal,
OpenFOAM requires users to be extremely careful with details. One such details is that OpenFOAM is (mostly) case sensitive. In other words, where you have "massflowRate" should be "massFlowRate". Best regards, Bruno
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August 23, 2013, 14:59 |
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Hi Bruno,
Thanks for your help. Could you point me to any tutorial we I can give velocity profile at my inlet. Thanks & Regards, Vimal. |
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August 24, 2013, 18:49 |
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Hi Vimal,
The only one I'm aware of in OpenFOAM is the tutorial "incompressible/simpleFoam/pitzDailyExptInlet", which uses a table list of values defined at each point in the inlet patch. Beyond this, you can find several examples of other ways on defining profile velocities here in the forum, among which are:
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August 25, 2013, 19:25 |
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Hi Bruno,
Thanks for your suggestions, it helped me a lot. I am right now trying to use the command foamToTecplot360, it does not seem to work. I get the following error foamToTecplot360: command not found Do I need additional packages for the function to work. Thanks & Regards, Vimal. |
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August 26, 2013, 18:14 |
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Hi Vimal,
Follow the instructions from here: https://github.com/wyldckat/localFoamToTecplot360 Best regards, Bruno
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August 28, 2013, 12:22 |
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Hi Bruno,
Thanks for the link, it was very helpful. For my problem, I am trying to run with a mapped inlet boundary and trying to map the flow parameters at the outlet on the inlet. But when I run the case using simpleFoam I get the following error could you enlighten me on that Code:
// * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * // Create time Create mesh for time = 0 Reading field p Reading field U Reading/calculating face flux field phi Selecting incompressible transport model Newtonian Selecting RAS turbulence model kEpsilon bounding k, min: 0 max: 2e-05 average: 2e-05 bounding epsilon, min: 0 max: 20 average: 20 #0 Foam::error::printStack(Foam::Ostream&) in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so" #1 Foam::sigFpe::sigHandler(int) in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so" #2 in "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6" #3 Foam::divide(Foam::Field<double>&, Foam::UList<double> const&, Foam::UList<double> const&) in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libOpenFOAM.so" #4 void Foam::divide<Foam::fvPatchField, Foam::volMesh>(Foam::GeometricField<double, Foam::fvPatchField, Foam::volMesh>&, Foam::GeometricField<double, Foam::fvPatchField, Foam::volMesh> const&, Foam::GeometricField<double, Foam::fvPatchField, Foam::volMesh> const&) in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libincompressibleRASModels.so" #5 at kEpsilon.C:0 #6 Foam::incompressible::RASModels::kEpsilon::kEpsilon(Foam::GeometricField<Foam::Vector<double>, Foam::fvPatchField, Foam::volMesh> const&, Foam::GeometricField<double, Foam::fvsPatchField, Foam::surfaceMesh> const&, Foam::transportModel&, Foam::word const&, Foam::word const&) in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libincompressibleRASModels.so" #7 Foam::incompressible::RASModel::adddictionaryConstructorToTable<Foam::incompressible::RASModels::kEpsilon>::New(Foam::GeometricField<Foam::Vector<double>, Foam::fvPatchField, Foam::volMesh> const&, Foam::GeometricField<double, Foam::fvsPatchField, Foam::surfaceMesh> const&, Foam::transportModel&, Foam::word const&) in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libincompressibleRASModels.so" #8 Foam::incompressible::RASModel::New(Foam::GeometricField<Foam::Vector<double>, Foam::fvPatchField, Foam::volMesh> const&, Foam::GeometricField<double, Foam::fvsPatchField, Foam::surfaceMesh> const&, Foam::transportModel&, Foam::word const&) in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/lib/libincompressibleRASModels.so" #9 in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/simpleFoam" #10 __libc_start_main in "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6" #11 in "/opt/openfoam221/platforms/linux64GccDPOpt/bin/simpleFoam" Floating point exception (core dumped) Vimal. Last edited by wyldckat; August 28, 2013 at 15:52. Reason: Added [CODE][/CODE] |
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August 28, 2013, 13:25 |
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Hi Vimal,
Make sure epsilon is larger than 0.0 in each cell of the whole domain. If it is equal to 0.0 somewhere, this would result in the floating point error when the turbulence model tries to compute nut: Code:
nut_ = Cmu_*sqr(k_)/epsilon_; L |
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November 28, 2013, 12:49 |
Open channel Flow with VOF
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Hi
I am planning to model a simple open channel flow with VOF for free surface. I am using the interFoam solver based on the water channel tutorial. I want to specify a desired water depth at the inlet and also a mixed alpha1 condition at the inlet. Your suggestions will be of great help. Also, I read from the form that groovyBC would be helpful in specifying such condition. Could you provide me some help on how to install this library to Openfoam. Thanks, |
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November 29, 2013, 15:56 |
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