CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > General Forums > Main CFD Forum

FlowVision, a Russian CFD Programme

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   August 26, 2005, 15:31
Default FlowVision, a Russian CFD Programme
  #1
Ahmed
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
This is the first russian CFD programme I come across, you can download a 20000 node limited evaluation from their web portal www.flowvision.ru Enjoy, it has some interesting features and methods. I guess it is a serious competitor to the big guys.
  Reply With Quote

Old   August 27, 2005, 00:02
Default Re: FlowVision, a Russian CFD Programme
  #2
Russian
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Wau, at last my compatriots made something.

Although Russians are not so good in CFD but Russians fighters are the best
  Reply With Quote

Old   August 27, 2005, 05:58
Default Re: FlowVision, a Russian CFD Programme
  #3
William Blake
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
It's not the first one. FloWorks/EDF-Lab is based on the AeroShape-3D Program which was developed by Computational Aerodynamics Systems in Moscow. Later they started a cooperation with "Will and Partner GmbH" in Germany and formed "Nika". Developement is probably still in Russia.

  Reply With Quote

Old   September 10, 2005, 23:05
Default Re: FlowVision, a Russian CFD Programme
  #4
Mike Marcu
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
The Floworks is now vigurously , silently is carving its way in the EFD field -making is available to the mass of designers- Fluent launched Flowizard after Floworks and I believe insopired by Floworks. Floworks is the T34 and others are Tiger,Panther etc. There was a competition between practical people like Cucherenco, Kalashnicov on one side and elaborated Dubbel,Hutte people like F.Porsche.

Look to the ease of meshing in Floworks how well is integrated in Solid Works and look to the complications and crashes of gambit Fluent meshing.
  Reply With Quote

Old   June 29, 2011, 20:41
Default
  #5
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 208
Rep Power: 16
CFDfan is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Marcu
;37070
The Floworks is now vigurously , silently is carving its way in the EFD field -making is available to the mass of designers- Fluent launched Flowizard after Floworks and I believe insopired by Floworks. Floworks is the T34 and others are Tiger,Panther etc. There was a competition between practical people like Cucherenco, Kalashnicov on one side and elaborated Dubbel,Hutte people like F.Porsche.

Look to the ease of meshing in Floworks how well is integrated in Solid Works and look to the complications and crashes of gambit Fluent meshing.

Also compare the smooth performance of Floworks with CFDesign's when importing and running radiation problems in complex geometries. If CFDesign manages to mesh it after 10 attempts (forcing you to increase the mesh desnity to a couple of million cells) then it will take a day or so to calculate the view factors and reconcile the mesh. It will take another half day or so after that till the simulation converges (if you are lucky).
The same model runs in Floworks for less than 4 hours.
In addition look how easy and intuitive is to setup the model in Floworks compared with Fluent or CFX.
CFDfan is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   June 29, 2011, 20:55
Default
  #6
Senior Member
 
Pauli
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 189
Rep Power: 17
Pauli is on a distinguished road
Yep, those Russian fighters really do well at the Paris air show.
Pauli is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   June 29, 2011, 22:04
Default
  #7
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 208
Rep Power: 16
CFDfan is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pauli View Post
Yep, those Russian fighters really do well at the Paris air show.

it was a pilot(s) mistake, the plane was (is) perfect...
CFDfan is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   June 30, 2011, 00:04
Default
  #8
Senior Member
 
michael barkhudarov
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sante Fe, New Mexico, USA
Posts: 337
Rep Power: 18
MuxaB is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by William Blake
;36834
It's not the first one. FloWorks/EDF-Lab is based on the AeroShape-3D Program which was developed by Computational Aerodynamics Systems in Moscow. Later they started a cooperation with "Will and Partner GmbH" in Germany and formed "Nika". Developement is probably still in Russia.
And yet another package for model metal casting, NovaFlow and NovaSolid from Novacast (http://www.novacastfoundry.se/index1...1=34&menuid2=5), has its CFD solver developed in Russia, albeit not as sophisticated as the general purpose tools.
MuxaB is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   June 30, 2011, 02:43
Default
  #9
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 208
Rep Power: 16
CFDfan is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by MuxaB View Post
And yet another package for model metal casting, NovaFlow and NovaSolid from Novacast (http://www.novacastfoundry.se/index1...1=34&menuid2=5), has its CFD solver developed in Russia, albeit not as sophisticated as the general purpose tools.

I also heard that CFDesign has bought (some time last year) the cfd code/algorithm from FlowVision and is ether working on, or has already implemented it in their prog. It is good news for cfdesign because their code was highly unstable (the same models with the same settings run with different versions or builds of CFdesign could profduce very different results). They have been recently bought by Autodesk which is also good.
My company owns licenses of Floworks and I just love that program. My hope now is that the developers will implement some of the positive sides of Flotherm (like the calculation speed) and will make it perfect.

Last edited by CFDfan; June 30, 2011 at 13:49.
CFDfan is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   November 12, 2012, 05:46
Default
  #10
Disabled
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 616
Rep Power: 24
Boris_M will become famous soon enough
I'm happy that you like Floworks (now Flow Simulation)/FloEFD. Yes, the code has a very great history and is used in aerospace for some time now. Just recently it celebrated 21 years since the first license was sold to a russian aerospace company. At that time the code was known as Aero Shape 3D as someone mentioned already.

The technology of FloTHERM and the instantanious mesh is somewhat different to FloEFD and since FloEFD is a general purpose code with lots of physics that FloTHERM does not need (cavitation, non-newtonian flow, etc.) for its electronics cooling specialities, the speed of FloTHERM will not get into FloEFD from the FloTHERM technology side. But we will of course not stop to speed up the solver and mesher in future.

Regards,
Boris
Boris_M is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   November 18, 2012, 09:42
Default
  #11
Senior Member
 
Ahmed
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 251
Rep Power: 18
Ahmed is on a distinguished road
Boris
How did you come to this seven years old post? I have retired!
Ahmed is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   November 18, 2012, 10:18
Default
  #12
Disabled
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 616
Rep Power: 24
Boris_M will become famous soon enough
Hi Ahmed,
I was googleing Aero Shape 3D to see what is out there on it and found this thread and since the last post was just a year ago I thought I just comment on the last entry.

Boris
Boris_M is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
STAR-Works : Mainstream CAD with CFD CD adapco Group Marketing Siemens 0 February 13, 2002 13:23
Where do we go from here? CFD in 2001 John C. Chien Main CFD Forum 36 January 24, 2001 22:10
ASME CFD Symposium, Atlanta, July 2001 Chris R. Kleijn Main CFD Forum 0 August 21, 2000 05:49
Which is better to develop in-house CFD code or to buy a available CFD package. Tareq Al-shaalan Main CFD Forum 10 June 13, 1999 00:27
public CFD Code development Heinz Wilkening Main CFD Forum 38 March 5, 1999 12:44


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 00:58.