CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > General Forums > Main CFD Forum

Grid Independence of Boundary layer

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   December 14, 2011, 14:42
Default Grid Independence of Boundary layer
  #1
New Member
 
Luigi Francisco
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 8
Rep Power: 15
Luigi_ is on a distinguished road
Hello,

I posted this question in the StarCCM+ forum since that is my application software, but the question is a general one about the boundary layer.

My question:
When I increase the mesh resolution in the BL, it has the result of reducing the mesh size of the last BL mesh, in comparison to the first mesh volume size of the core flow. Is this a problem, when there is a large step change between the last prism layer mesh, and first core mesh volume?

Model:
I'm modeling channel flow looking at the boundary layer on one wall that starts from a BL trip (modeled with surface roughness near the beginning of the channel). I am using a Reynolds stress turbulence model. I'm confused in how/the need to do a grid independence study for the boundary layer.

Grid independence methodology:
First I refined my core (outside the BL) as needed until I was happy with grid independence for the bulk flow. For these different runs of different core mesh size, my boundary layer mesh was always the same-- y+=~0.85, with 20 prism layers across the BL thickness (as calculated from normal flat plate turbulent BL growth).

Now, any insight into the proper methodology to reach grid independence in the BL? Do I, as stated above, just increase the number of cells in the BL, while keeping the first mesh size the same to preserve y+=~1.0 as needed for the turbulence model?

Alternatively, I could also reduce the size of the first mesh, so now it would be even less than y+=~0.85 and it is more refined all the way across the BL.

Also since there seems to be two variables to change (first mesh size, and number of cells across the boundary layer mesh), any advice to know when the BL mesh is sufficient? Since it isn't like bulk flow where you just refine it until your variables of interest aren't changing.

Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks!
Luigi_ is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply

Tags
boundary layer


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Turbulent Boundary Layer on a Flat Plate Hoshang Garda FLUENT 1 November 27, 2013 11:24
LES- first grid point in boundary layer, y+ sina Main CFD Forum 0 February 3, 2011 10:26
[snappyHexMesh] Boundary layer generation problems ivan_cozza OpenFOAM Meshing & Mesh Conversion 0 October 6, 2010 14:47
Boundary Layer Question scottneh STAR-CCM+ 3 September 30, 2010 15:21
Errors in Gambit for boundary layer mesh Mike Spears FLUENT 0 June 23, 2005 12:34


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 17:12.