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March 7, 2019, 09:14 |
How to verify there is turbulence in a flow with a k-epsilon turbulence model
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Maveryck Andres
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Good day every one,
I have implemented a k-epsilon turbulence model for an incompressible flow solver, and now I want to verify that the results I get correspond to a turbulence regime. By solving the k equation I have the kinetic energy, and the rate of dissipation from the epsilon equation. With those values how could I stimate if the flow is turbulent? Thanks a lot in advance! |
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March 7, 2019, 09:56 |
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However, you should compare with other k-epsilon implementation if you want to validate the code. |
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March 7, 2019, 11:21 |
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Filippo Maria Denaro
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As wrote by Paolo, there is no sense in asking if the turbulence exists after you get a RANS solution. It is exactly the opposite, if you have a fully developed turbulence problem in energy equilibrium then the RANS formulation could provide reasonable statistical results.
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March 7, 2019, 16:09 |
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Lucky
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There is formally no way to tell. The only hint is the eddy/turbulent viscosity which should be 0 for laminar flow and non-zero for turbulent flow. But chances are, you will always have non-zero turbulent viscosity because you are using a turbulence model which assumes the flow is already fully turbulent.
In other words, you should assume that the solution corresponds to the fully turbulent result even if this solution is not accurate. As a corollary, if the real flow is supposed to be laminar, then your simulation corresponds to what the flow would look like if it were turbulent. |
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March 8, 2019, 04:22 |
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The most reliable indicator is the insight of the physics of each specific case you are working on. Also, validation of your results on simple cases from the literature.
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