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November 10, 2017, 12:01 |
Are two simulations equivalent if they have the same Grassof and Reynolds?
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Hector Redal
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Hi,
I would like to know if two simulations that have the same Reynolds and Grassof number are thermally equivalent? I am trying to simulate the problem described in the following article: http://heattransfer.asmedigitalcolle...icleid=1438948 I am supposing air with Pr = 0.71. When I double the viscosity, doubling the inlet velocity (keeping reynolds number), and doubling the temperature difference in the formula for calculating the Grashof number, the results I am obtaining are different. I have always understood that non-dimensional number allow comparison between different simulations/experiments that show same behaviour. May I am missing something? As thermal coefficient expansion (beta) for the Grashof number I am using 1/T, being T the low temperature in the problem. Should I use any other value for the temperature (i.e., the high temperature)? The middle temperature in the range? Any comment is welcome. Best regards, Hector. |
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November 10, 2017, 12:10 |
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Filippo Maria Denaro
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You can easily answer by looking at the governing equations in non-dimensional form. If you have the same non dimensional parameters the two non-dimensional solutions must be the same.
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November 10, 2017, 20:26 |
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Hector Redal
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The non-dimensional solution differ by almost 5%. |
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November 11, 2017, 04:27 |
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Filippo Maria Denaro
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There is a difference in the two simulation, maybe different iteration accuracy
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November 13, 2017, 12:32 |
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Hector Redal
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I only observe this discrepancy when trying to solve a problem with energy equation coupled. The difference between both solutions is more ore less 5%. No more. For me, it's more than can be justified by the accuracy iteration. Maybe I am wrong. |
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