CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > General Forums > Main CFD Forum

Benchmark example for 3D radiation modeling!

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   October 22, 1999, 06:45
Default Benchmark example for 3D radiation modeling!
  #1
Klaus-Peter Helbig
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Dear all,

I started to work in the field of radiation modeling (fired furnaces) with CFD codes. To verify the radiation models I'm searching a 3D-example (simple geometry) to benchmark the models. A paper of Timothy W. Tong, published in HTD-Vol. 203, Developments in radiative heat transfer, ASME 1992 ("Summary on comparison of radiative heat transfer solutions for a specified problem")seems to be one good starting point for me. Within this paper there is discussed the radiative heat flux for fixed fluid properties in a rectangular enclosure for different radiation models.

For someone, who is more involved and expearienced in these topics, I have a question: Does this example still serves as a "state of the art" example of judging different radiation models (or exists - years passed by, new methods were modeled... - another well discussed benchmark model, ideally with a comparison also with experimental results?

Maybe someone can recommend me a paper reference or some adresses (including www) where I can find additional informations?

With best regards

Klaus-Peter

  Reply With Quote

Old   October 22, 1999, 11:12
Default Re: Benchmark example for 3D radiation modeling!
  #2
Nuray Kayakol
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Hi Peter, You can verify your code on 3-D rectangular problem (Selçuk, N. and Kayakol, N., Evaluation of Discrete Ordinates Method for Radiative Transfer in Rectangular Furnaces, Int. J. Heat Mass Transfer, 40, 213-222, 1997) or cylindrical problem (Selçuk N. and Kayakol N., Assessment of Discrete Ordinates Method for Radiative Transfer in Cylindrical Furnaces, Second symposium (Int.) on Radiative Heat Transfer, ICHMT, Kusadasi, Türkiye, June, 1997) of Selçuk. The exact solutions are produced by Selçuk. The problem is based on data taken from a large-scale perimental furnace with steep temperature gradients typical of operating furnaces.

In these papers you can find answers to your questions about importance of judging different radiation models and validation procedures.

Validation studies with experimental data or exact solutions is still main concern.

If I can be of further assistance, please let me know.

Nuray Kayakol
  Reply With Quote

Old   October 24, 1999, 07:43
Default Re: Benchmark example for 3D radiation modeling!
  #3
Anders Jönson
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Hi, I have a few additional questions regarding thermal radiaton. I am interested in surface-to-surface thermal radiation without interaction with a gas. My application are surface temperature on components in the engine bay. Do you, or anyone else, know any good 3d validation examples?

Regards

Anders
  Reply With Quote

Old   October 25, 1999, 03:40
Default Re: Benchmark example for 3D radiation modeling!
  #4
Nuray Kayakol
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
I don't know such a 3D validation example. But absorption coefficient ka(1/m) represents thermal radiation due to gas medium. As ka goes to zero surface-to-surface thermal radiation becomes more dominant than gas radiation. What I mean is this: a 3D code can be applied to both a participating medium (CO2+H2O) and non-participating medium (air) by using appropriate ka values.
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Radiation modeling cloudnqh FLUENT 9 July 19, 2018 18:14
radiation modeling in vacuum mirko OpenFOAM Programming & Development 7 May 20, 2016 09:31
Radiation modeling rathish FLUENT 0 September 30, 2010 00:27
Modeling Thermal Radiation Kaushik Saha FLUENT 0 September 17, 2008 20:12
Question about Radiation Modeling Zhengcai Ye FLUENT 0 October 12, 2004 19:44


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 15:47.