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Old   October 16, 2007, 18:37
Default SIMPLE, SIMPLER or PISO?
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Gem Leku
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Hello

How do you choose between the algorithms SIMPLE, SIMPLER or PISO?

Are there any guideline somewhere? Can someone draft a recommendation?

Thanks in advance

G.L.

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Old   October 18, 2007, 05:29
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PISO is the more robust from the three algorithms. But it is a little bit more complex to implement. But in some cases the convergence is 20-50% faster.

If I were you, I would choose PISO. It worth the extra trouble of incorporating the extra terms.

SIMPLER on the other hand is a little bit faster than SIMPLE and it is extremely easy to implement. Just change a coefficient of the SIMPLE algorithm.

hope it helps
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Old   October 19, 2007, 00:44
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For compressible NS equation,which one are used?
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Old   October 22, 2007, 05:59
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I am sorry for a mistake in my previous message. In SIMPLEC there is only a change in a coefficient, while SIMPLER is a bit more complicated.

All can be used for compressible flow.
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Old   October 24, 2007, 00:27
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Are there any introduction on solving compressible flow by SIMPLE or other three algorithms? I know how to implement simple algorithm for incompressible flow,but add a energy equation for compressible flow. How to deal with the addition equation?

thanks

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Old   October 24, 2007, 05:50
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You just compute density with the ideal gas law or any other law. And ofcourse the incoming flow rate does not equal the outcoming flow rate as in incompressible flows.
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Old   October 24, 2007, 10:09
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Well, not quite. You do need to also solve the energy equation (typically the enthalpy equation is used.)
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Old   October 24, 2007, 12:20
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Dear George,

Careful on:

"And ofcourse the incoming flow rate does not equal the outcoming flow rate as in incompressible flows."

Mass must be conserved. Therefore, for steady state calculations, the incoming mass flow must be identical to the outgoing mass flow.

Int_over_allboundaries (density * velocity) dot dA = zero

Opaque

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