|
[Sponsors] |
May 1, 2014, 23:05 |
Unsteady pressure calculation
|
#1 |
New Member
Fraser Callaghan
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 4
Rep Power: 13 |
I have a temporal dataset of velocity vectors in a 3D volume. I also have a reference pressure at t=0. My flow is incompressible.
I can calculate the pressure gradient and define a pressure field relative to my reference pressure at t=0, however how could I calculate pressure fields at t=1, t=2, t=i ... ? (I have the pressure gradient fields at all these time points, but no reference pressure). Any tips, resources would be helpful. I haven't been able to turn up anything in the literature. Thanks, Fraser |
|
May 3, 2014, 19:33 |
|
#2 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 272
Rep Power: 16 |
Did you solve the Navier-Stokes equations? if so ,necessary you have the pressure on each grid point of your computational domain.
If it is not the case,you need a spatial reference pressure for each time step (if you have the pressure gradient at each time step) Quote:
|
||
May 4, 2014, 04:34 |
|
#3 | |
Senior Member
Filippo Maria Denaro
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 6,896
Rep Power: 73 |
Quote:
1) for any time, solve a Poisson equation with the source terme obtained taking the divergence of the momentum equation. 2) However, for incompressible flows be careful that you do not define a thermodicamic pressure |
||
May 4, 2014, 18:58 |
|
#4 |
New Member
Fraser Callaghan
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 4
Rep Power: 13 |
Thanks for the reply.
Velocities are measured velocities. Pressure gradient is solved for from the momentum equations. I have no reference pressure for each time step. Approach so far is an implicit discretisation based on SIMPLE |
|
May 5, 2014, 00:11 |
|
#5 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 358
Rep Power: 19 |
Why can you not use the same reference pressure as at t = 0? What is causing the reference pressure to change?
|
|
May 5, 2014, 00:51 |
|
#6 |
New Member
Fraser Callaghan
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 4
Rep Power: 13 |
A beating heart
|
|
May 5, 2014, 09:23 |
|
#7 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 358
Rep Power: 19 |
But ordinarily the reference pressure is a quantity that primarily affects the non-dimensionalization of the equations of motion. The actual pressure in a heart chamber will vary in time, but the pressure levels will vary relative to the reference pressure. So I guess I still don't understand how or why the reference pressure is changing in time.
|
|
May 5, 2014, 10:54 |
|
#8 |
Senior Member
Filippo Maria Denaro
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 6,896
Rep Power: 73 |
the blood pressure is measured by the device with reference to a pressure value, you should use this one...
|
|
May 8, 2014, 21:34 |
|
#9 |
New Member
Fraser Callaghan
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 4
Rep Power: 13 |
Sorry - grant deadlines
The velocities are measured and thus should be non-divergent - solution of Poisson eqn not required. I don't want to know pressures relative to single point at each time step. I want to know pressures relative to single point at time step one. All pressures, everywhere are time dep. Reusing ref pressure from t=0 would give me the former case. Thus I need some sort of coupling of the pressure gradient to the unsteady component. |
|
May 9, 2014, 04:24 |
|
#10 | |
Senior Member
Filippo Maria Denaro
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 6,896
Rep Power: 73 |
Quote:
You can always write Div (Grad p') = Div ( diffusion - convection - acceleration) so, if you have a non divergence-free acceleration you can compute it (you have the velocity ad several time steps, right?) and consider it in the source term. |
||
Tags |
incompressible, navier-stokes, pressure, unsteady |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
[Help!] impeller torque calculation: pressure and viscous moments | ghost82 | Main CFD Forum | 1 | March 27, 2014 03:37 |
reference pressure and compressible flow | bingo10 | CFX | 0 | September 11, 2013 08:32 |
Unsteady pressure pulses | delaneyluke | FLUENT | 0 | February 19, 2013 16:17 |
Pressure drag calculation | lc05 | Main CFD Forum | 2 | November 1, 2010 08:50 |
pressure drop calculation multi-inlet-outlet syst. | timmyy | FLUENT | 1 | April 24, 2007 07:03 |