CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > General Forums > Main CFD Forum

vortex method

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   February 6, 2007, 23:52
Default vortex method
  #1
vortex method beginner
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Hi colleagues:

I am currently doing some readings on vortex method, which is entirely grid-free in the solution domain (similar to BEM).

For those who have worked in this area before, can you recommend any books/papers, that have detailed the numerical implementation of vortex methods?

Thanks in advance.
  Reply With Quote

Old   February 7, 2007, 05:50
Default Re: vortex method
  #2
Luca
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Hi, I would say the basic book you can read is the one by Katz and Plotkin. Another interesting book is the one by J. Moran. Luca
  Reply With Quote

Old   February 7, 2007, 06:11
Default Re: vortex method
  #3
vortex method beginner
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Thanks Luca. I will search for the books to understand more about it.

Luca, what you think about the current status of vortex method? Has it come to a stage that it is mature enough to be accepted as a global computational method for industry?

It is true in a way that flow turbulence can be resolved in an accurate manner, without adopting the turbulence models for Eulerian grid-base methods. However, how is the computational time of Lagrangian vortex method as compared to the conventional Finite-Volume RANS method?

Any comments are welcomed.

Thanks again.
  Reply With Quote

Old   February 7, 2007, 06:34
Default Re: vortex method
  #4
Luca
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Sorry, I must admit I read too fastly you previous message, I thought you're talking about panel methods (like vortex lattice for example). Vortex methods are more complex...and I'm completely ignorant about these methods. Luca
  Reply With Quote

Old   February 7, 2007, 06:39
Default Re: vortex method
  #5
vortex method beginner
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
It is okay, Thanks Luca.

Any comments about the current status of vortex method are welcomed.
  Reply With Quote

Old   February 7, 2007, 08:36
Default Re: vortex method
  #6
Anton Lyaskin
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
There are also good papers of T.Sarpkaya

Sarpkaya, T., (1989), "Computational Methods with Vortices - The 1988 Freeman Scholar Lecture," Journal of Fluids Engineering, ASME lll, No. 1, 5-52

Sarpkaya, T., (1994), "Vortex Element Methods for Flow Simulation," In Advances in Applied Mechanics, (Ed. Th. Wu and A Hutchinson), Vol. 31, 113-247
  Reply With Quote

Old   February 7, 2007, 21:11
Default Re: vortex method
  #7
vortex method beginner
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Dear Anton:

DO you have the copy of those papers? I have difficulties in getting those. Appreciate if you could send them to my Email: ngkhaiching2000@yahoo.com if any?

Many thanks, Anton

  Reply With Quote

Old   February 8, 2007, 02:37
Default Re: vortex method
  #8
Adrin Gharakhani
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Google "vortex method". There are two books I know of - by (1) A. Chorin, and (2) G-H Cottet and P. Koumoutsakos. But you can go to the following for intro to various vortex methods:

http://www.edpsciences.org/articlesp...1/contents.htm http://www.edpsciences.org/articlesp.../contents.html

Adrin

  Reply With Quote

Old   February 8, 2007, 23:33
Default Re: vortex method
  #9
vortex method beginner
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Thanks Adrin..I shall look further into the webpage..

  Reply With Quote

Old   February 9, 2007, 15:21
Default Re: vortex method
  #10
Paolo Lampitella
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Hi, i'm not involved in vortex methods but i think that a useful book could be:

Lewis : "Vortex Element Methods For Fluid Dynamic Analysis of Engineering Systems" - Cambridge

At least the second part treats exactly what you mean.

Regards
  Reply With Quote

Old   February 9, 2007, 20:58
Default Re: vortex method
  #11
vortex method beginner
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Many thanks, Paolo..
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Vortex Lattice Method: Calculating lift using circulation from vortex ring elements black&gold Main CFD Forum 11 June 27, 2011 00:51
Discrete Vortex Method Sowmitra Singh Main CFD Forum 1 March 16, 2007 15:59
Vortex method vs High Reynolds number Weili Main CFD Forum 1 August 4, 2006 02:15
About vortex method ? Zafer FLUENT 0 October 18, 2005 09:58
vortex method codes Pengyong Main CFD Forum 0 March 30, 2004 11:15


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 20:55.