CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > General Forums > Main CFD Forum

1D Bingham flow. Simple (?) question

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   December 10, 2013, 04:24
Question 1D Bingham flow. Simple (?) question
  #1
New Member
 
Luke
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 14
Rep Power: 14
LukeFullard is on a distinguished road
Hi all. I am trying to write my own finite difference code to simulate a visco-plastic flow using the Bingham rule for shear

ShearStress=YieldStress + nu*ShearRate when abs(ShearStress)>YieldStress
and
ShearRate=0 when abs(ShearStress)<=YieldStress


It seems to me that abs(ShearStress)>YieldStress will always be true (assuming a positive ShearRate). Am I missing something? Should it be

nu*ShearRate>YieldStress ?

I am confused!

Thanks for any help
LukeFullard is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   December 10, 2013, 09:48
Default
  #2
Member
 
Prashant Ojha
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 38
Rep Power: 17
prashant24983 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by LukeFullard View Post
Hi all. I am trying to write my own finite difference code to simulate a visco-plastic flow using the Bingham rule for shear

ShearStress=YieldStress + nu*ShearRate when abs(ShearStress)>YieldStress
and
ShearRate=0 when abs(ShearStress)<=YieldStress


It seems to me that abs(ShearStress)>YieldStress will always be true (assuming a positive ShearRate). Am I missing something? Should it be

nu*ShearRate>YieldStress ?

I am confused!

Thanks for any help
Imagine a rectangular block of mayonnaise (as an example of bingham viscoplastic material) on a flat plate. The shear stress between the mayonnaise and the flat surface will be 0 as there is no lateral force acting on the mayonnaise. The only force acting on the mayonnaise is its own weight which does not produce any component in shear direction. But as you start to tilt the plate, a component of its weight starts to act in the shear direction which depends on the angle of tilt.

Till the shear force reaches the threshold value of YieldStress you will not see any deformation in your mayonnaise. But there is an angle at which the shear stress becomes larger than YieldStress and as soon as that happens, and based on your equation, the viscosity model changes & the material starts to deform based on the bingham model for condition abs(ShearStress)>YieldStress. (Note: I am assuming sufficiently large quantity of mayonnaise for this experiment to show the behavior described above )

Physics described above 'hopefully' illustrates what those equation and conditions signify and I guess something similar is what you are trying to model?

When you say "abs(ShearStress)>YieldStress will always be true", you are leaving out the fact that shear stress is simply the force acting on the mayonnaise in shear direction, which is dependent on the physics of the model.

In my experiment above, the shear stress changes from 0 and gradually increases based on tilt angle. So shear stress will not "always" be greater than yield stress. Dont look at the equation, the equation does not provide the definition of shear stress. The physics of your problem will help you determine the shear stress!
prashant24983 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   December 10, 2013, 15:52
Default
  #3
New Member
 
Luke
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 14
Rep Power: 14
LukeFullard is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by prashant24983 View Post
The physics of your problem will help you determine the shear stress!
I saw this and it clicked! Thanks very much!
LukeFullard is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply

Tags
bingham, visco-plastic


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Review: Reversed flow CRT FLUENT 1 May 7, 2018 06:36
Simple question about pipe flow husker Main CFD Forum 1 February 29, 2012 04:40
Ask help wiht a SIMPLE Method on compressible flow. universez Main CFD Forum 0 February 8, 2010 11:38
simple pipe flow question arkur Main CFD Forum 0 June 29, 2008 19:07
A question about flow between 2 plates John FLUENT 2 January 23, 2006 07:07


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:53.